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  • How to train a horse to yield his forequarters
  • Training a horse to move his forequarters

 
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    06-09-2011, 11:35 AM
  #1
Foal
Trouble giving forequarters

Hello :) I am just starting to use the Parelli method with my ten yr old gelding and I've realized he is very pushy and disinterested. I am gaining his interest and responsiveness in other areas, but when I ask him to give his forequarters he walks forward, raising his head. I know that he is being dominant and pushy and trying to be the leader, my question is what should my response be? I don't know whether to walk along with him being persistent or to stop him with the halter and increase pressure...
     
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    06-10-2011, 07:12 PM
  #2
Foal
If he's pushing into your space and walking forward, when you ASKED him to step OVER, OUT, AWAY from you...you need to TELL him.

The moment he erroneously steps forward/toward you or into your space, you need to position yourself and your energy to MOVE HIM OUT, whether that's backwards or sideways, it doesn't matter at that point. But get him to move his feet AWAY from your body.

You need to pay attention to how you are "blocking" his front end. You need to 'close the door' so he doesn't go forward and into you.

Watch his eye and make sure you are blocking it. For moving the forehand over/sideways, you can even just start by standing next to him and putting your hand up by his eye and your other hand nearer his nose and sort of patting the air - holding the lead rope between your two hands so it acts like a sidewall.

Hard to describe. Good luck!
     
    06-11-2011, 12:58 AM
  #3
Super Moderator
I don't know Parelli, so hope I don't have wierd adice in that context.
You are aksing him to step his shoulder over by putting pressuer there. If you need to, add pressure on his cheek (mental pressure or fingertip tap-tap). If he walks forward I would just keep up the pressure, basically ignore his forward, unless it's into you. If he steps INTO you then tap briskly on his cheek to push his head over and keep the same aksing pressure on his shoulder. He can make a mistake (though not walk over you). You just keep asking until he makes the right choice. Then stop and do nothing and let him soak on it.
I guess I basically look at it as ask for something and if he chooses the wrong thing I don't change a thing, I just keep asking the same old way and eventually he will choose the right repsonse, and he gets the reward of me stopping asking.
     
    06-11-2011, 01:29 PM
  #4
Started
Welcome to Parelli! Hope you have fun on this journey, it's amazing!

This is a pretty common issue you can see with dominant horses. They don't want to move their front end because the dominant horse never yields his front end ;) lol. You will have to have good timing for your release, because it's the release of pressure that teaches the horse. Ask him to yield over (start with the Driving Game first to establish the pattern so you don't have to worry about maintaining contact like you would in the Porcupine Game) and if he goes to walk forward shake your rope up and down to "shut down" Zone 1, telling it that 'door' is closed. The only 'open' door is for him to yield away from you. The more intensity he has with blowing you off, the more firm you are with your rope. Match his intention and energy and then add just a bit more to get the message across. When he yields release immediately and rub him and allow him to think about it. Only ask for a step or two at first. Hope this helps! Good luck!
     
    06-16-2011, 02:25 PM
  #5
Foal
Thank you all, he is yielding his forequarters beautifully now!
     
    06-16-2011, 04:38 PM
  #6
Started
Wonderful, great job! :)
     

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