I love you too Rio. If you feel the need, here is a big hug for you.
Vidaloco I am talking to you. No one else. Just you.
I have been there. I have had a horse that followed me around, come when I called, stuck to me like we were joined at the hip and we were. The whip is the joining factor and you can loose the whip and go to something invisible that I won't talk about, but it is there.
It is like the circus horses, the 6 or so you see running in circles around the ring with the whip master in the center. This is not happy horses. This is extreme training , those horses can not disobey or else.
I was taught by an old horseman the art of whip training and at the time I thought it was the cats meow. I even did it to other peoples horse that were a problem just walking in the stall. In short order I had their horses following me, coming to me whenever I was near them. It was not love, it was actually fear of what I could do if I so desired.
This is as far as you can get from Natural Horsemanship. Notice everyone carries a whip?? Why?? It is the connections and a much harsher connection then any lead rope.
To be impressed by something like this, circus training bothers me. We talk about NH and this is about as far as you can get from it.
This is experience talking, this is someone who has been there, someone who makes really good horses and I don't agree anymore with this type of training. I am certianly capable of doing exactly that but I will not abuse an animal with this circus act.
Love you too vadalco. Hugs and kisses.
Remember I am only talking to you so no one else jump in.