Update on Arie - Page 2
 
 

       The Horse Forum > Training Horses > Natural Horsemanship

Update on Arie

This is a discussion on Update on Arie within the Natural Horsemanship forums, part of the Training Horses category

     
    LinkBack Thread Tools
        01-19-2010, 08:37 AM
      #11
    Started
    LOL kevinshorses. I used to clip whiskers a long time ago and my horses never hurt themselves because of it :)

    Thank you charlicata :) The relationship he and I have has absolutely helped. If this had happened when I first got him, there is no way it would have gone smoothly. Disaster would be an appropriate word to use!
         
    Sponsored Links
    Advertisement
     
        01-19-2010, 08:45 AM
      #12
    Banned
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by kevinshorses    
    ?

    Spirithorse: Please don't trim the whiskers on Alberta Girls horse. She is afraid it will bump it's chin or get cut on barbwire.
    Kevin put me down also for not trimming the whiskers. I feel in the dark stall they are feelers that tell the horse when his head is about to meet a solid object, when his muzzle is about to reach the bottom of the grain bin, when his grazing muzzle encounters the ground.
    How can you tell what your horse feels when he lowers his head???
         
        01-19-2010, 08:56 AM
      #13
    Started
    Glad to hear that Arie's doing well since his injury, Spirithorse!

    As far as the clipping goes, I only clip the bridle path if I'm not showing, sometimes excess feathering if it starts to collect snowballs or mud too badly. If I do show (something that happens less and less these days... I think I'm becoming disillusioned with competition, lol) I do a full trim: Feathers, beard, whiskers, and the fold-and-clip-what-sticks-out method on ears. I don't notice anything different about the behavior of my guy whisker-less vs. whisker-bearing, but as a matter of general grooming I do let them grow. My sister's QH, on the other hand... well, his whole head could be one giant whisker and he'd probably still be a klutz with his head and face.
         
        01-19-2010, 11:13 AM
      #14
    Foal
    Boy you people are really defensive. I did not come across as pointing a finger, just opening a discussion.

    Think about it. We all know that whiskers on animals are there for "feelers". Mother nature has put them there and they have been there for thousands of years. It is only the "show" world that made it be that they need to be trimmed. If you had never, ever seen or been to a show I am sure that trimming off your animals whiskers would never even cross your mind. As a matter of fact, it seems cruel to take that away from them and they have no say if we cut them off or not. I also found the following info.

    "Whiskers are a very important sensory device for the horse especially in discriminating feed. The softer blades of grass versus the coarser textures that do not bend as easily. This apparently gives the horse information as to what is potentially toxic versus non-toxic, sweet versus bitter etc. In addition the whiskers too provided 'line-of-sight' information for distance and angle assessment."

    Again not pointing fingers at anyone however I think it is a point worthy of some thought. This is a natural forum right ?? Does not get much more natural than that.
         
        01-19-2010, 11:58 AM
      #15
    Started
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Alberta Girl    
    Boy you people are really defensive. I did not come across as pointing a finger, just opening a discussion.

    I don't see anything that terribly defensive, just discussion and statement/support of differing opinions on the topic of whiskers and their maintenance...

    Think about it. We all know that whiskers on animals are there for "feelers". Mother nature has put them there and they have been there for thousands of years. It is only the "show" world that made it be that they need to be trimmed.

    Agreed. If the show world didn't require it I probably wouldn't do it myself. I showed 4-H Grooming and Showmanship for years with some success, and I got flak for not pulling my gaited/morgan cross' mane QH style, let alone whiskers. IMHO, if the horse is clean and in good condition, uber-correctness of clip/trim shouldn't mark a competitor down, esp. In a situation like 4-H where the aim is to introduce horsemanship, competition, and sportsmanship. I really can't speak for higher level comp., I never really wanted to go there and deal with all of the fuss and politics of it.

    If you had never, ever seen or been to a show I am sure that trimming off your animals whiskers would never even cross your mind. As a matter of fact, it seems cruel to take that away from them and they have no say if we cut them off or not.

    I'm not justifying this, either, but what about removing the dew claws of dogs, or declawing a cat (I lied, I have had this done to my rescue housecat, for the sake of the carpet, sofa, tv stand, wallpaper, dressers, cabinets...)? Whiskers are hair, and hair grows back. Several bad clip jobs and haircuts attest to that. I have a bigger problem with needless declawing, or tail/ear docking than I do with clipping hairs that will be back in 3 weeks.

    I also found the following info.

    "Whiskers are a very important sensory device for the horse especially in discriminating feed. The softer blades of grass versus the coarser textures that do not bend as easily. This apparently gives the horse information as to what is potentially toxic versus non-toxic, sweet versus bitter etc. In addition the whiskers too provided 'line-of-sight' information for distance and angle assessment."

    ^Interesting stuff. Sheer curiosity, where did you find that info? I wouldn't mind reading more.

    As far as a practical reason for whisker removal, in my area of perpetual winter, my guys routinely accumulate little ice/snowballs on their whiskers, between grazing and condensation freezing there in sub-freezing temps. Occasionally a trim is merited there... I feel so bad for them out there scratching their muzzles on their knees because the ice chunks are pulling the whiskers.

    Again not pointing fingers at anyone however I think it is a point worthy of some thought. This is a natural forum right ?? Does not get much more natural than that.

    Agreed 100% and Amen!
    My response in bold.
         
        01-19-2010, 12:22 PM
      #16
    Yearling
    I never cut any of my face or nose hair for the same reason as it helps me FEEL my food better when I eat.

         
        01-19-2010, 12:26 PM
      #17
    Started
    ^Bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha!!
    I nearly fell out of my chair reading that!!
         
        01-19-2010, 04:31 PM
      #18
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Marecare    
    I never cut any of my face or nose hair for the same reason as it helps me FEEL my food better when I eat.

    Not to mention saving a little food for later.
         
        01-19-2010, 05:31 PM
      #19
    Green Broke
    All I said was parelli. Wasn't saying it in a negitive way.

    Glad things are looking up.
         
        01-19-2010, 10:59 PM
      #20
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by HorsesAreForever    
    All I said was parelli. Wasn't saying it in a negitive way.

    Glad things are looking up.
    No you didn't say it in a negative way, but the message was implied...don't think we are stupid
         

    Quick Reply
    Please help keep the Horse Forum enjoyable by reporting rude posts.
    Message:
    Options

    Register Now

    In order to be able to post messages on the The Horse Forum forums, you must first register.

    Already have a Horse Forum account?
    Members are allowed only one account per person at the Horse Forum, so if you've made an account here in the past you'll need to continue using that account. Please do not create a new account or you may lose access to the Horse Forum. If you need help recovering your existing account, please Contact Us. We'll be glad to help!

    New to the Horse Forum?
    Please choose a username you will be satisfied with using for the duration of your membership at the Horse Forum. We do not change members' usernames upon request because that would make it difficult for everyone to keep track of who is who on the forum. For that reason, please do not incorporate your horse's name into your username so that you are not stuck with a username related to a horse you may no longer have some day, or use any other username you may no longer identify with or care for in the future.

    User Name:
    Password
    Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
    Password:
    Confirm Password:
    Email Address
    Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
    Email Address:

    Log-in

    Human Verification

    In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.


    Old Thread Warning
    This thread is more than 90 days old. When a thread is this old, it is often better to start a new thread rather than post to it. However, If you feel you have something of value to add to this particular thread, you can do so by checking the box below before submitting your post.

    Thread Tools

    Similar Threads
    Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
    Eve Update! EveningShadows Horse Pictures 10 10-18-2009 04:25 AM
    update on my mom close2prfct General Off Topic Discussion 23 08-19-2009 12:09 PM
    Update! NordicJuniper Horse Talk 0 07-30-2009 04:50 PM
    Old BO update ;-p SonnyWimps Horse Talk 7 08-02-2008 12:54 PM
    UPDATE on: What could it be???? brittx6x6 Horse Health 3 03-23-2008 09:38 PM



    All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:14 PM.


    Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
    Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
    Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0