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    07-23-2013, 08:21 AM
  #11
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Originally Posted by crazy4mypaint    
previous owner used a bitless bridal, that is why I am asking which bitless bridal to purchase, there are so many to choose from. I am use to snaffle bits, that is why I tried a snaffle. My boyfriend rode her bareback in round pen with just a lead rope. However on trails I wanted something a bit more safer with better control. I don't know much about bitless bridals, hence why I am asking.
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Check with the previous owner and see which one she used. This is something that can take some trial and error.

I tried a Dr Cook bitless bridle and it made him so angry I did an emergency dismount! I changed to a little S for when I do to bitless and that works fine. Otherwise I have a small selection of bits I can use, right now its a KY rotary bit.
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    07-23-2013, 10:47 AM
  #12
Green Broke
I DESPISE the dr.cook bitless. Haven't had it on a horse yet that likes it, and I hate the feel of it. When you think about the mechanics of it, its an awful idea. What horse wants their entire head squeezed whenever you want to stop? Its like a straight jacket for their face.

I have seen two horses wearing it off the farm, they both had their heads in the air trying to avoid it.

I'm a fan of a side pull, and I want to try a little s hack one day. I also thing a bosal can be an amazing tool if you know how to use it. If you go the mechanical hackamore route, make sure its not a cheap one and its fitted well.
     
    07-23-2013, 11:54 AM
  #13
Foal
The Light Rider is very good. My TWH mare goes really well in it. Another really nice one is the Nurturalhorse. It's the training that makes a horse as safe as possible, not the bit you use, so choose what works for your horse, and focus on that all important ground work.
     
    07-23-2013, 12:56 PM
  #14
Green Broke
I have used a Dr. Cooks for 2 years...it is ok. I tried a hackamore at a clinic and I much prefer it (rawhide bosal, leather hanger and McCarty). See if you can try a Dr Cook's before you buy.
     
    07-23-2013, 04:10 PM
  #15
Foal
I usually use a Bosel bridle with my mare. I highly suggest it if your horse is keen on cues and directions.
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    07-24-2013, 08:20 AM
  #16
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I've found the bitless bridles that affect the nose and poll of the horse only works when a horse is well trained in how to respond to those particular pressures. With most forms of pressure, especially on a sensitive area like the face, most horses push into the pressure trying to push past it. So when there's pressure on their poll their likely first reaction is to shoot their head up to push past that pressure. If you teach them, with just a flat halter and lead rope, how to put their head down with pressure on the poll first they'll know how to relieve that pressure appropriately. Same for giving to pressure on the nose, but most horses understand this, given that's how we use a flat halter.

I personally love sidepulls that just engage the nose of the horse, they can of course, be made more and less severe with the use of knots, firmer/softer materials, some cross under the chin all in all, you need to find the one your horse is comfortable packing and train him to respond to it.

The biggest concern with anything that crosses under, whether engaging the whole head or just the nose, is the immediacy of release, so stick with softer materials and metal rings.

The other form of bitless are ones that have shanks, the longer the shank the more you needto neck rein. I've seen some little tiny shanked hackamores which could use direct reining, but would be strong. While the true mechnical hackamores with real shanks do need to be used for neck reining only, direct reining will just twist the noseband in all sorts of confusing positions for the horse.


Another important thing to remember big time, just cause it doesn't have a bit doesn't mean it can't hurt. These are tools that operate with the use of pressure and release and all provide some form of pressure (in varying degrees) so be sure to be clear in your signals, consistent in your releases and train your horses well enough to respond to the lightest pressure, saving the firmer pressure for true emergencies. :)

That's my 2 cents! :P
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    07-26-2013, 08:20 PM
  #17
Foal
Thank you for your two cents as well as everyone else. Seems like a spring release bosal is the direction I am thinking about trying out first. Sorry I can't remember the correct name, I think it is rankbridle.com if any one is curious... I also might try a side pull andt little s at some point if this does not work out. Trial and error process unfortunantly. I do appreciate everyones advise. I am glad I joined this forum, I seem to learn something new every time I log on, so thanks for that....
     
    07-29-2013, 11:02 AM
  #18
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Originally Posted by crazy4mypaint    
Thank you for your two cents as well as everyone else. Seems like a spring release bosal is the direction I am thinking about trying out first. Sorry I can't remember the correct name, I think it is rankbridle.com if any one is curious... I also might try a side pull andt little s at some point if this does not work out. Trial and error process unfortunantly. I do appreciate everyones advise. I am glad I joined this forum, I seem to learn something new every time I log on, so thanks for that....
Would you mind keeping us posted on this? Strange but someone else was JUST talking about this bridle (the spring loaded one). I am super curious about how it works.
I love my hackamore (bosal) but I don't want to get the rawhide wet and would love a backup. :)
     
    07-29-2013, 11:08 PM
  #19
Foal
I love Dr. Cooks. Have ridden numerous horses in them - all trained by our state's version of the "Horse Whisperer," I'm convinced. The horses seem to move better in them on the trail and in endurance or competitive trail the bitless is preferred because it allows them to eat moisture containing grass freely. In that case the bitless serves the purpose of promoting hydration.

With my young, phlegmatic, "warmblood" beast I use the bitless so I don't feel I'm teaching him bad things by being in his mouth all the time when we're trail blazing. When you're doing flat work, however, or more advanced work, not sure how to put it, then you might find you'll need the bit to move the horse up in his training. You're not going to find a dressage trainer, or barrel racer, for that matter who's going to go for the bitless. At least the trainers I met want a bit.
     
    07-30-2013, 11:39 AM
  #20
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Originally Posted by DancingArabian    
Check with the previous owner and see which one she used. This is something that can take some trial and error.
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This would be a good starting point. If what was used by the former owner worked, I'd stick with that.
     

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