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post #21 of 32 Old 04-18-2013, 08:40 PM
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I see it as just another training technique. Yes, it's become overdone and a fad, but the 'basics' as I see them are:

1) Don't push them too hard

2)Don't send mixed signals

3)Let them be horses

Any of those can be taken way out of context, but that's how I see it. What it should be: something to use in conjunction with an experienced trainer What it is: OMG I want to be my horses bestie1!! I watched some videos online so now I'm a master! No correction because it's cruel- My horse should be able to do anything he wants!

(Don't take offense to the second one- I'm exaggerating)
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OliviaMayee, you've really grown in your understanding of horses, thus your ability to relate effectively with them; congrats!

Wonder if Klaus dislikes the term, "NH"? By my above definition, he's as NH as they come. :)
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OliviaMayee, you've really grown in your understanding of horses, thus your ability to relate effectively with them; congrats!

Wonder if Klaus dislikes the term, "NH"? By my above definition, he's as NH as they come. :)
I agree !

Ahah thanks i got my understanding from watching horses in the paddock and watching people with their horses.

The foolish reject what they see, not what they think,
The wise reject what they think, not what they see.
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post #24 of 32 Old 04-23-2013, 05:15 PM
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To me it's getting things done without hardware. Moving the horse with your body, understanding body language, that sort of thing :)

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To me it's getting things done without hardware.
What do you define as hardware? Just interested
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post #26 of 32 Old 04-23-2013, 05:36 PM
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What do you define as hardware? Just interested
All those carrot sticks and stuff. My horse would laugh at me if I waved one of those at her. I use a rope and that's it on the ground. I use saddles and bits etc etc when riding, but the stuff some ppl try to sell you, and the prices!, are just silly IMO
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Just for example, my friend spent truck loads of money trying to sort out her horse with all the hardware PP sells, I'm not discounting him at all, just saying she went mental and brought everything. She tried waving a carrot stick, which she then had to use to beat the horse off her, using the special rope halter, going bit less, treeless, bare back, talking nicely, yanking the horses head etc etc, all saying it was NH.
So to help her, we got the horse in a round pen and I sent her out, pressuring her to move by moving myself, free lunge basically, you get the idea. I had rope and a helmet on, just in case she decided to stick her fingers up at me and attack. A few flicks of the rope and generally making misbehaviour uncomfortable for her, keeping her moving, turning, doing what I wanted her to do, she began to listen, lick her chops, head down etc etc.
Just my opinion but NH shouldn't be about using certain people's hardware. It's your connection with you horse and how you can get the best out of your horse without going NATO on its butt lol just my thought though, not saying they are right, only that it's worked for me.

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Oh and my horse is unshod and we do ride bitless and bare back as well, mainly for fun though :) we don't compete and she has good little tootsies so no need to shoe her

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I'd like to ban the term Natural Horsemanship altogether because its totally outgrown its use and crept into the realms of stupidity - essentially its gone too far.
It spreads from what I see as OK - training horses in a non abusive way trying to establish a bond by understanding why they do things instead of the same knee jerk reaction (though if pushed I'm not averse to giving a horse a good whack), having a horse work for you because it wants too and not because its been bullied into it but still retaining normal acceptable tack, shoes, stabling, blankets/rugs, martingales, spurs, whips if you want them and use them correctly but then it drifted into bits are cruel, shoes are cruel, competing is cruel, all horses should be ridden in rope halters etc etc etc. Groundworks a great tool but that moved on to endless mind numbing games that will bore most horses to becoming sour and irritable and had no real connection to anything you do on their backs
There are a lot of good things come out of it but there is also a huge amount of unnecessary rubbish and dictating
Maybe Common Sense Horsemanship, Practical Horsemanship, Leave Me Alone and Stop Trying To Make Me Feel Guilty Horsemanship?
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post #30 of 32 Old 04-23-2013, 10:45 PM
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See to me NH is like...thinking like a horse, being aware of the horses behaviour, and why and what can be causing the current behaviour, like they say, horses can run off our emotion, so its having an open mind to how you are feeling as to why the horse is doing what its doing.

To me I find blue ribbens get in the way of alot of ppl and their horses.

To me not everything is about riding the horse, I enjoy picking up poo in the paddock, I love grooming, I love just sitting and watching the horse
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