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        04-15-2013, 12:06 PM
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    Weanling
    What is the purpose of this "Natural Horsemanship" section of the forum

    If you go to the main page and read the description under "Natural Horsemanship" it reads "Get and give advice about implementing natural horsemanship training methods, share your progress with others, etc. This forum is not for asking for or offering opinions about natural horsemanship trainers or methods."

    Please correct me if I am wrong, but I believe this section of the forum is for those in favor of Natural Horsemanship.

    Someone who does not care for donkeys would not go the section for "Other Equine" and talk about how much they don't like donkeys or to the "Trail riding" section to talk about how they don't care for trail riding.

    Just food for thought.
         
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        04-15-2013, 12:23 PM
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    Super Moderator
    I think one of the reasons is that the NH concept has now become so fragmented with lots of different and often contradictory ideas its confusing to say the least.
    There seems to be a move to good old fashioned non abusive common sense ways of dealing with horses - which to some extent is what real NH should be about. Some of it has almost moved into the realms of trick training with no actual benefits to the ridden horse
         
        04-15-2013, 12:26 PM
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    Originally Posted by Farmchic    
    This forum is not for asking for or offering opinions about natural horsemanship trainers or methods."
    Correct me if I am reading this wrong - but to me it reads as you cannot ask questions about natural horsemanship methods or clinic people (trainers I guess you could say.)

    But isn't that a big part about natural horsemanship? Wow.
         
        04-15-2013, 12:27 PM
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    Weanling
    Ummm again, I think this section of the forum is for those who like NH techniques. Not a place to bash it.
         
        04-15-2013, 12:33 PM
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    Foal
    Would someone explain to me what NH actually is? Cause as far as I'm concerned as soon as you put a something on the horses head to control it the horse is no longer "natural", do you trim its feet? That's not natural, do you feed it something other then grass? Again not "natural" to a horse in its natural evnviroment in the wild.
    I'm not trying to stir the pot I'm just saying I think the name is misleading
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        04-15-2013, 12:34 PM
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    Trained
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    Ummm again, I think this section of the forum is for those who like NH techniques. Not a place to bash it.
    But you could be a fan of NH and not of a specific trainer. Wouldn't not liking the specific trainer fall under the bash part?
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        04-15-2013, 12:35 PM
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    Showing
    I think the techniques themselves aren't necessarily being "bashed," unless they are blatantly misleading (which a lot of the techniques can be, especially for new riders who are unsure around horses, which is who the NH movement seems to be targeted toward), so much as it is people who use a common sense approach to horses (which, as someone already pointed out, is what NH should be) vocalizing their thoughts and concerns about some of the big name clinicians, especially when those clinicians seem to be in it more for the money than anything else.
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        04-15-2013, 12:40 PM
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    Weanling
    My thought was very simple, if you have something negative to say about NH then I'm sure there is a better place to talk about that than here on the section of the forum set aside specifically for those in favor of NH. It's just not polite.
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        04-15-2013, 12:46 PM
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    Showing
    But if those of us who don't follow NH (or a specific method at all) have a question about a NH technique or a video we've seen, by your logic that would be bashing and wouldn't be "polite."

    This is an open forum. People can post where they like, regardless of how much you dislike that. So, unless you can convince the mods to somehow password protect the NH section so only NH people can post in it, you'll just have to deal with people posting in the section. Either don't read the posts or don't respond. Simply problems require simple solutions.
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        04-15-2013, 12:48 PM
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    Banned
    Farmchic,

    There is some history behind that guidance at the top of the section, and having a separate section for NH at all.

    The subject of NH (which is a designation I hate; what are the rest of us practicing, unnatural horsemanship?) is a very polarizing one on this forum, and often, if someone asked questions about a particular NH technique or practioner, it would turn into a huge, nasty debate about NH as a whole.

    So a separate section was created for people who were interested in NH to discuss it without the validity of it being up for general debate.

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    Someone who does not care for donkeys would not go the section for "Other Equine" and talk about how much they don't like donkeys
    Unfortunately, that's not true. Posters do that very thing, go on certain sections of the forum just to say "I can't stand ______(insert discipline, practice or trainer here)____" and it's not just NH that comes in for that treatement - hunters, Western Pleasure, barrel racing, dressage and gaited horses have all been bashed with a ferocity that is usually reserved for religon or politics.

    So my recommendation to you would be to enjoy this section of the forum, and ignore derogatory posts about NH in other parts of the forum.
         

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