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    02-27-2011, 10:20 PM
  #271
Trained
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Originally Posted by TheLovedOne    
I have a 30 year poco myself. I just got a three year poco bred paint last year. I love the temperament. The paint is black/white with two blue eye - she's pretty pretty.
Cool. What line to poco is yours? My is By Cherokee Poco by PB and out of a g-d of King. Great producer. One of mares is out of her. Sold the others.
     
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    02-27-2011, 10:23 PM
  #272
Trained
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Originally Posted by TheLovedOne    
Ah yes the paint was headed to the auction.

That dose happen. Sometimes you can find a nice one. I have yet to find one at a regular auction that would fit my needs. There was one mare that was surrendered to a local HS that was a nice reining bred mare. She did not last long. There are several people who where interested in her.
     
    02-27-2011, 10:32 PM
  #273
Weanling
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Originally Posted by Marecare    
I find that explanation a bit easier to understand but feel that 5 and 10 degree changes are much different than "Circles".

In flying and navigation there is "course" which is a straight line between two points and "heading" which is the degrees that you point the plane to travel on the course line.

Horses are similar in that sometimes you have to make a heading change to stay on course and sometimes you just change your course.

Think of a stream and you want to get to the other side but the water is flowing very fast.
If you point the bow of the boat at the point that you want to reach the current will drag you down stream.

Your analogy has you over correcting to get back on course which will do that but I am not sure the horse understands what he did wrong.

Maybe we are saying the same thing but "True straightness" is a state of all things being balanced but there will always be very small corrections to maintain it.

I don't really feel that horses see lines like we do and really just want to get along with the least fuss.

To make a point I think you could lead a horse into the arena each day and line up feed pans in a perfectly straight line and let him walk from one to the other.
Each day I could spread the pans out further and further until there were only two pans (one on each end of the arena).
The horse would walk in a perfect line from one to the other because it would be the most efficient way to get there.

Now I could throw the horse off "Course" by sitting on him and leaning to the outside in one direction or another.
If I did the same thing every day for a year the horse would get wise to me throwing him off course and would compensate for my lack of balance and that is what most people are looking for in a horse.
i really think compared to linda's method you & I are saying the same thing when it comes to straightness/evenness.

We both use some form of correction when it comes to getting "true straightness", compared to linda's way, which is if the horse turns left, keep turning left untill your walking on the straight line you were before (as you said, horses don't see straight lines like we do, so this won't work at achieving balance). Which might work to get the horse to walk in a straight line in the current situation, but isn't so good at teaching the horse that it's his responsibility to have "true straightness" (left = right) and to maintain direction.

"Your analogy has you over correcting to get back on course which will do that but I am not sure the horse understands what he did wrong" the horse isn't suppose to understand what he did wrong as this isn't a form of punishment, the reason I over correct is to compensate for the horses original decision to deviate.

"I find that explanation a bit easier to understand but feel that 5 and 10 degree changes are much different than "Circles"." pat says (in his new level 1 or 2 dvd) that in geometry there are only straight lines and circles. Seeing as this is a parelli thread I thought i'd use quotations from his DVDs.

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Think of a stream and you want to get to the other side but the water is flowing very fast.
If you point the bow of the boat at the point that you want to reach the current will drag you down stream
exactly, so in order to go straight across the stream, you'd have to compensate for the boats desire to go downstream, by turning upstream. Using lindas method in this example, you'd point the bow of your boat downstream, then keep turning that way untill you were facing your destination again. Usually then the boat (or horse) will continue turning on it's on because the current of the stream (or the horses "unevenness") kept pushing, regardless of how many times you went through that process.
     
    03-01-2011, 09:28 AM
  #274
Showing
Great thread! Nice to hear so many others who putting it nicely dislike Parelli!
     
    03-01-2011, 11:06 AM
  #275
Banned
Seems like all that savy didn't work in this case. Also wasn't that big a buck to get him off either.

     
    03-01-2011, 11:12 AM
  #276
Trained
Spyder-he did say he had started to take his foot out, realizing he was about to blow.....so perhaps between that and the spinning he was just enough off balance.

Either way-too much too soon for this colt for sure. Guess the hugs and kisses approach doesn't always work so well.
     
    03-01-2011, 01:28 PM
  #277
Started
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Originally Posted by franknbeans    
Spyder-he did say he had started to take his foot out, realizing he was about to blow.....so perhaps between that and the spinning he was just enough off balance.

Either way-too much too soon for this colt for sure. Guess the hugs and kisses approach doesn't always work so well.
FrankI heard that as well and after watching the video I laughed about it he was still hanging on when his ass left the seat!!!
     
    03-01-2011, 06:18 PM
  #278
Trained
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Originally Posted by Peggysue    
FrankI heard that as well and after watching the video I laughed about it he was still hanging on when his ass left the seat!!!
And, instinctively pulling on the colts head too, just like most of us would....

I did like that I saw a picture on CC's FB page of the 2 of them having dinner last night. Very nice. Really too bad that apparently CA is a bit of a sore loser.
     
    03-01-2011, 07:13 PM
  #279
Started
Wouldn't it have been neat to see all three of them having dinner together
     
    03-01-2011, 07:27 PM
  #280
Trained
Sure would.....
     

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