Originally Posted by Marecare
I find that explanation a bit easier to understand but feel that 5 and 10 degree changes are much different than "Circles".
In flying and navigation there is "course" which is a straight line between two points and "heading" which is the degrees that you point the plane to travel on the course line.
Horses are similar in that sometimes you have to make a heading change to stay on course and sometimes you just change your course.
Think of a stream and you want to get to the other side but the water is flowing very fast.
If you point the bow of the boat at the point that you want to reach the current will drag you down stream.
Your analogy has you over correcting to get back on course which will do that but I am not sure the horse understands what he did wrong.
Maybe we are saying the same thing but "True straightness" is a state of all things being balanced but there will always be very small corrections to maintain it.
I don't really feel that horses see lines like we do and really just want to get along with the least fuss.
To make a point I think you could lead a horse into the arena each day and line up feed pans in a perfectly straight line and let him walk from one to the other.
Each day I could spread the pans out further and further until there were only two pans (one on each end of the arena).
The horse would walk in a perfect line from one to the other because it would be the most efficient way to get there.
Now I could throw the horse off "Course" by sitting on him and leaning to the outside in one direction or another.
If I did the same thing every day for a year the horse would get wise to me throwing him off course and would compensate for my lack of balance and that is what most people are looking for in a horse.
i really think compared to linda's method you & I are saying the same thing when it comes to straightness/evenness.
We both use some form of correction when it comes to getting "true straightness", compared to linda's way, which is if the horse turns left, keep turning left untill your walking on the straight line you were before (as you said, horses don't see straight lines like we do, so this won't work at achieving balance). Which might work to get the horse to walk in a straight line in the current situation, but isn't so good at teaching the horse that it's his responsibility to have "true straightness" (left = right) and to maintain direction.
"Your analogy has you over correcting to get back on course which will do that but I am not sure the horse understands what he did wrong" the horse isn't suppose to understand what he did wrong as this isn't a form of punishment, the reason I over correct is to compensate for the horses original decision to deviate.
"I find that explanation a bit easier to understand but feel that 5 and 10 degree changes are much different than "Circles"." pat says (in his new level 1 or 2 dvd) that in geometry there are only straight lines and circles. Seeing as this is a parelli thread I thought i'd use quotations from his DVDs.
Think of a stream and you want to get to the other side but the water is flowing very fast. |
If you point the bow of the boat at the point that you want to reach the current will drag you down stream
exactly, so in order to go straight across the stream, you'd have to compensate for the boats desire to go downstream, by turning upstream. Using lindas method in this example, you'd point the bow of your boat downstream, then keep turning that way untill you were facing your destination again. Usually then the boat (or horse) will continue turning on it's on because the current of the stream (or the horses "unevenness") kept pushing, regardless of how many times you went through that process.