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Why even use a bit?

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    10-11-2012, 11:29 AM
Originally Posted by KSL    
Never said that was a bad thing.
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Didn't say you did.. but you did make the assumption that everyone could make an hour a day for working with their horses. This is not a true assumption.
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    10-11-2012, 11:38 AM
I read through most of this thread, skipped the last couple of pages.

I feel there is an ego thing going on here with the OP. So, to the OP, I think that's great you can ride your horses with a halter, or bitless...that's great. But who else on here can't do that? Pretty much everyone else can, so I don't understand your thinking that if someone CAN'T do it, they aren't a rider.

So, I will one up you....how about bridleless? I can ride with a bit, with a halter, and bridleless on my horse...and he will respond the same way BECAUSE I use seat and leg FIRST, no matter what is on his head or NOT on his head. Here are some pics at the jog (and yes, I can walk, jog, lope, back, spin, and do a pattern on him bridleless inside OR outside.)

If you know anything about riding....you know that there are 3 basic aids....hand, seat, and leg. To get ultimate refinement in how your horse uses it's body, a bit is needed due to the hand communication. To go bridleless, bitless, or in a halter and have your horse perform correctly....well, that is the END of the training because everything else to get to that point has been done in a bit.
    10-11-2012, 11:46 AM
I don't want to bash or bully an individual. I do disagree with a few ideas postulated. I am a lucky person who is a full time student and keeps her horse at her parents property. That is about an hour away from where I go to school. This would mean that on a given day after 8 hours of campus work I would have to drive an hour home, ride/work with the horse for an hour and then drive an hour back to school. Where I would then complete the assigned readings. That does not happen.

I also disagree with the idea that anyone who uses a bit or not a rope halter is a bad rider. I don't show and I don't own a rope halter. I work my horses in either a D ring snaffle or a french link. I do this because I like the precision of the bit. I use more ounces than pounds of pressure to get a desired response. I also like having brakes. I am not saying that a bit is the only brakes. I am saying that if I ride down the trail and a deer jumps out and scares my horse. The horse takes off like a bat out of heck. I like that I can use that bit to help me stop them. They are going to pay more attention to the most important thing in that situation (me and MY safety). The rope halter is a fine enough tool; however, I choose not to use it. I don't think that makes my horses less trained or me less skilled then someone who rides only in a rope halter.

Third reason to think horses should be exposed to it. Most horses in this day and age will be sold. Which means that they have a pretty good chance of having John Q public go out and slap a bit in there mouth and toss a saddle on. We can only hope they don't throw some god awful shank bit curbed monstrosity in the horses mouth without first knowing how to use it. The only thing you can do is expose the horse to bits (even a humble snaffle) so its not a total mess when a future owner puts a bit in the horses mouth and rides off into the sunset.
    10-11-2012, 12:30 PM
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    10-11-2012, 12:34 PM
Originally Posted by jaydee    
Well this thread went well didn't it
Depends on whether or not you're the OP, I guess.

But then, all her threads seem to go trainwreck-y, mostly because of her Ever Changing Story.
    10-11-2012, 12:59 PM
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    10-11-2012, 02:52 PM
It's easy to be a bully when hiding behind a computer. Thanks everyone for all the help. All I was doing is asking a simple question.
    10-11-2012, 03:01 PM
Originally Posted by KSL    
It's easy to be a bully when hiding behind a computer. Thanks everyone for all the help. All I was doing is asking a simple question.
No you werent asking a simple question, you started this a couple of days ago in another thread, in which you said something along the lines that 'if you can't ride your horse in a halter that your not a real horseman' and again, don't make me copy paste all your remarks from that thread and time line them on here. Anyone can view your posts.
If you insult people, this is what happens.
I've had plenty of back and forths with people on this forum, but nine times out of ten I would have either conceded to agree to disagree or apologized for offending someone. Im not to prideful and egotistical to do that.....its called maturity.
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    10-11-2012, 03:09 PM
Originally Posted by KSL    
It's easy to be a bully when hiding behind a computer. Thanks everyone for all the help. All I was doing is asking a simple question.
You asked why we use bits. Pretty much everybody said that they use them for the refined communication with their horse. It was my impression that you didn't like that answer.

I have ridden bit-less. If my bridle were to break out on a trail, I wouldn't be afraid to snap my reins on to my halter. But that is not the way I am going to ride on a daily basis.
    10-11-2012, 03:12 PM
Originally Posted by KSL    
It's easy to be a bully when hiding behind a computer.
It's also apparently easy to be an arrogant, entitled git. Pot, meet kettle.

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