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    01-21-2012, 05:53 PM
  #31
Green Broke
Oh, just using the bosalia alone is for a horse that is a true bridle horse, the step before would be using the bridle bit a long with the bosalita setup with a mecate in the two rein. So once the horse graduates to just the bridle bit then the mecate is taken off the bosal and used as a get down tied around the neck and ran through the bosalita.

I hope that makes sense...when I get home I will post some pics.
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    01-22-2012, 04:49 PM
  #32
Yearling
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Originally Posted by COWCHICK77    
No problem!

I imagine that running the get down in between the curbstrap and chin would be uncomfortable for the horse while the bit is in use. Also running it through the curb would kinda defeat the porpose of using one at all. The idea is not to lead the horse by the bridle reins to preserve the mouth. If it was ran through the curb then it would interfere with the bit while leading.

I can't really think of any pros...
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Yes, that's pretty much what I thought too, appreciate your opinion now I'll stop thinking about it at all.


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Originally Posted by COWCHICK77    
Oh, just using the bosalia alone is for a horse that is a true bridle horse, the step before would be using the bridle bit a long with the bosalita setup with a mecate in the two rein. So once the horse graduates to just the bridle bit then the mecate is taken off the bosal and used as a get down tied around the neck and ran through the bosalita.

I hope that makes sense...when I get home I will post some pics.
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It makes sense, thanks again.

And so not to totally hijack this thread - I do wiggle the line to get a back up when I am at a distance from my horse. I start with a wiggle of the finger, then say back and would progress to more vigorous wiggling and stronger body language if needed.

I cut the metal ends off my lines years ago, even the long lines, and tie them on the loops of the rope halters. Save for a lead rope or two to use for trailering.
     
    01-22-2012, 04:53 PM
  #33
Trained
When I was in school we had to study Algebra. It didn't take very long for me to realize that unless a person was going to be an engineer or astro-physicist or something along those lines you really don't need as much algebra as was required. The purpose of the algebra was to teach the student to THINK and solve problems. That's similar to why you would teach a horse to back when you put life in the lead rope. You're teaching the horse to look for the release of the pressure. Every time you teach a horse to give to pressure you're making it easier the next time. If you're not getting the response you want from the horse and you're giving up then you're making it more difficult the next time. ANY horse can learn to back with a wiggle in the rope. You don't have to have a clip hitting the horse in the jaw and you really don't have to escallate very much either. I have no hardware at all on any of my halters and I don't want to spend a lot of time swinging a rope around either. I use wwhatever methods work to get the horse backing up in addition to the wiggle and then I use less and less until all I need is the wiggle.
     
    01-22-2012, 05:41 PM
  #34
Yearling
A trainer I used once, used this method, as does most everyone I come across. The trainer was really big on making the horse she's training as soft as possible. In the beginning the horse needed quite a bit of force, as she had very little ground manners. As time went on, the amount of wiggle needed in the rope was an indication of her progress. It made a lot of sense for training purposes. That was not the ONLY method of backing that she was taught either, there were at least 3 that were included in her training.
     

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