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    03-15-2013, 02:10 PM
  #11
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    03-15-2013, 02:28 PM
  #12
Trained
Yeah, was my reaction exactly. Which is why I find it completely assinine that people have told her to hit the horse with the whip/stick, especially considering she has virtually no experience with horses. That'd be like handing a whip and a chair to someone with absolutely no experience with lions and saying "Ok. If he comes at you, just hit him with the whip and shove the chair in his face." *facepalm*
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    03-15-2013, 02:53 PM
  #13
Green Broke
Maybe she should move and let the horse have the place.
Honestly, the owner needs to come and take this problem horse away.
     
    03-15-2013, 02:56 PM
  #14
Trained
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Originally Posted by Corporal    
Maybe she should move and let the horse have the place.
Honestly, the owner needs to come and take this problem horse away.
Apparently the OP is having the horse moved to a neighbor's property soon. Which, in itself, is kinda weird. I have to wonder where the horse's legal owner is in all of this and why, if the OP's husband has so much experience with horses and the horse loves him, he doesn't help the OP with this issue.
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    03-15-2013, 03:10 PM
  #15
Showing
A broom handle will work and it works with a bunch of horses as well as one. Hold the broom handle in front of you as you leave the house and swing it side to side like it was a metal detector, only at waist height. Do it in a rhythmic fashion. If the horse walks into the stick it will move away. Just keep swinging the stick as you walk. You can even follow him a bit to keep him moving farther away then continue on.
     
    03-15-2013, 05:43 PM
  #16
Foal
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Originally Posted by Corporal    
Maybe she should move and let the horse have the place.
Honestly, the owner needs to come and take this problem horse away.
ACTUALLY....this is kind of the plan. We are trying to sell this ranch--and hopefully to good people experienced with horses who know how to and want to train horses. The horse would go with the property (as an option).

So many great responses to my thread--thank you!
The owner lives down the road; horse is here to protect from local horse thieves
My husband doesn't have time to work with the horse (he thought I'd be fine with the horse because I was with the 4 Arabians who were here before (who were very well trained.)
We live in a very rural area--there are no horse trainers out here--there is nada out here --nearest Starbucks store is 3 hours away (another reason to leave
Initially, I did try to intimidate the horse by acting confident, making myself stand tall, waving my arms around, yadda yadda--she just "huffed at me", turning her head away as if to say "whom are you fooling, lady?!" (in a way it was rather comical )
Perimeter fenced; cannot afford additional fencing or corral
Plan is to move horse to adjoining, vacant property and owner is working on that (thank God!)
It sounds like I'm absolutely right in my suspicion that this horse could turn on me if I hit her (would hate to do that anyhow)
I feel sorry for the horse--she needs the right person to work with her intensively--she has potential--but I'm not the person to try to help her. She will probably end up being a pasture decoration.
     
    03-15-2013, 06:58 PM
  #17
Yearling
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Originally Posted by Horseshygranny    
...The owner lives down the road; horse is here to protect from local horse thieves...
... Sorry if I'm being blunt, but who would want to steal that b*** if she's really how she sounds

But this really is an odd situation ... We had a horse who was this aggressive. I wasn't experianced enough to handle the horse. We got a trainer in, and even she couldn't handle him. So we sold him to a cowboy-type trainer that he clicked with instantly. Afraid I don't have any advice though, since it's not your horse :/ Best of luck!!
     
    03-15-2013, 07:01 PM
  #18
Yearling
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Originally Posted by horseshygranny    
actually....this is kind of the plan. We are trying to sell this ranch--and hopefully to good people experienced with horses who know how to and want to train horses. The horse would go with the property (as an option).

So many great responses to my thread--thank you!
The owner lives down the road; horse is here to protect from local horse thieves
My husband doesn't have time to work with the horse (he thought i'd be fine with the horse because I was with the 4 arabians who were here before (who were very well trained.)
We live in a very rural area--there are no horse trainers out here--there is nada out here --nearest starbucks store is 3 hours away (another reason to leave
Initially, I did try to intimidate the horse by acting confident, making myself stand tall, waving my arms around, yadda yadda--she just "huffed at me", turning her head away as if to say "whom are you fooling, lady?!" (in a way it was rather comical )
Perimeter fenced; cannot afford additional fencing or corral
Plan is to move horse to adjoining, vacant property and owner is working on that (thank god!)
It sounds like i'm absolutely right in my suspicion that this horse could turn on me if I hit her (would hate to do that anyhow)
I feel sorry for the horse--she needs the right person to work with her intensively--she has potential--but i'm not the person to try
to help her. She will probably end up being a pasture decoration.
what???
     
    03-16-2013, 05:46 PM
  #19
Foal
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Originally Posted by xJumperx    
... Sorry if I'm being blunt, but who would want to steal that b*** if she's really how she sounds

But this really is an odd situation ... We had a horse who was this aggressive. I wasn't experienced enough to handle the horse. We got a trainer in, and even she couldn't handle him. So we sold him to a cowboy-type trainer that he clicked with instantly. Afraid I don't have any advice though, since it's not your horse :/ Best of luck!!

I know, I know...who would steal her? The same guy who stole her two companion horses last year. He's a lives down the road. According to the owner, the sheriff refused to do anything about it. Lots of banditos down here in the Wild West.

This horse had her hooves trimmed today--she behaved quite well. Wondering if she just doesn't like women (?). Maybe that was the case with the aggressive horse you had.
Waiting to see if the horse does leave on Tuesday as scheduled.
     
    03-17-2013, 01:44 AM
  #20
Foal
Well just to kind of answer your question even though it's already clear that a lot more needs to be done with the horse than just exposing the horse to a whip... I would say 90% of the time when you smack or bump a dominant/aggressive horse with a stick, they will retaliate violently in some way, either by kicking out or biting or bucking because the horse is going to fight for its superiority. That's why it's a dominant horse, if it was that easy, then you probably wouldn't have such a problem. The trick is to anticipate it and be prepared to smack again. You need to have the last word in the argument, and horses don't usually keep fighting after two rounds. If a horse goes more than two rounds, I would consider sending the horse to a professional trainer skilled in aggressive horses because it shouldn't take more than two disciplinary actions to convince a horse that it's not worth it.


That or you're not smacking with enough energy (inner energy, not physical energy), or you're smacking too late.
     

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