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    06-26-2013, 07:19 PM
  #121
Showing
This thread made me start paying attention as to when I pat my horses and I realized they get a fairly resounding couple of slaps when I'm done with them. It was not an intentional thing, it just started happening and now they know it's ok to walk away.
     
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    06-27-2013, 12:52 AM
  #122
Foal
Domesticated horses, and probably all horses love a good pat. Some horses may have sensitive areas where they don't like to be touched. Common places are face, legs and quarters, but most horses will know you mean it lovingly.
P.S. Overthrow the trainer, mutiny!!!!
     
    06-27-2013, 12:41 PM
  #123
Showing
Most horses prefer rubbing or just touching to patting. I think patting is more about tolerance, not enjoyment.
     
    06-27-2013, 04:29 PM
  #124
Yearling
WOW how is this thread still alive?! LOL
Well, thankfully I moved from this hell-hole barn about a month ago. My horse and I are much happier at the new place.
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    07-26-2013, 02:32 PM
  #125
Foal
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Originally Posted by xlionesss    
WOW how is this thread still alive?! LOL
Well, thankfully I moved from this hell-hole barn about a month ago. My horse and I are much happier at the new place.
That was a good move, why didn't I think of that?
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    07-26-2013, 04:43 PM
  #126
Yearling
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Originally Posted by Ellie Bramel    
That was a good move, why didn't I think of that?
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LOL this "trainer" definitely wasn't the only reason I moved. Way too many horses on not enough acreage, price for lack of amenities, no where to ride etc etc
     
    07-26-2013, 05:44 PM
  #127
Yearling
Props to you for getting out of there, some times it is best to move onto greener pastures. I don't think there is anything wrong with giving your horse a pat if done right. I go out with my horses and just chill with them, I know their personalities and they know me. One of my mares is this big, husky thing, (okay, ALL of my mares are big, husky things, but one in particular,) and she is actually fairly 'sensitive'. She doesn't need hard cues and corrections, but she does need to be told when she is doing a good job. If I praise her, she'll lick her lips and sigh a few seconds after. I was riding her the other day and I gave her some good pats on the shoulder and butt and she knew it was praise. Other people will go up to my horses and smack them hard, and they don't enjoy it near as much. I guess it is about the nature of the pat, and how much you coddle them. And I guess what knowledge you were brought up with.

While I'm not a devout Parelli follower, my trainer was and she was a good horsewoman, teacher, and not condescending in the least. A lot of people dislike Parelli, but honestly it sounds like you were dealing with a self-righteous cowgirl who over stepped her bounds. The worst part is, she might of actually believed being an annoyance was going to change anyone.
     
    07-26-2013, 07:05 PM
  #128
Foal
My reaction

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Originally Posted by xlionesss    
Anrew, I just MIGHT try that. I can definitely manage that as opposed to telling her to buzz off! I really don't mind if people think I'm crazy, mostly because BO knows I'm not an that's all that matters LOL
I deal with people like this often. I tend to not say things to someone for several reasons 1) I hate lying 2) with some it becomes an argument, or 3) I end up being just as rude and obnoxious.

This is what I do and it has worked every time: I continue doing exactly what I was doing, not even acknowledging the person, eventually I will be done and walk away. Works every time I typically do not hurt that person's feelings doing this because they don't feel anything. Try that, as she doesn't have a horse, you will eventually get away from her.
     
    07-28-2013, 12:24 PM
  #129
Foal
Yeah, there is a part of Parelli program some people don't get. It's the opportunity to get creative, so long as you ave the understanding of the basics and the reasons to do things a "certain way". If you have successfully passed level I and you are interested in level II there are a lot of areas to investigate now. I found the horse temperament personality stuff very helpful. I'd say the right brain introvert would be a horse you wouldn't "pat". However....I pat with the good intention and not hard because other people will do it to her and horses get used to stuff... I rub a lot too and especial that part of the mane 2/3rds down and around. But you can tell if a horse lines something or is just putting up with it. So, without being timid around my horse or afraid to insult it I try different things, read the horse and discontinue or continue accordingly. I have found the face and head is a sensitive zone so I approach more slowly, start at the shoulder or side of neck under the ear and work my way under and around over to top TC... Just a usual coming to say hi and oh yeah I will be rubbing an eye and nose, maybe cleaning and scratching ears blah bla blah.
     
    08-08-2013, 12:20 AM
  #130
Foal
You'll meet plenty of people like this in the horse world. Sometimes they actually do have a good idea to contribute though. Depending on how you pat and the nature of the horse, I'd say she could be right. I doubt it will make much difference unless you pat pretty hard, and even then most easy going horses really tolerate it well so it's really not a big deal unless the horse is sensitive and you pat pretty aggressively. I personally think most horses probably prefer a stroke/rub over a pat and I think the nervous horses generally calm down better with gentle strokes but get more nervous with pats.

Consider yourself or even a dog or cat, you probably would prefer strokes over pats. But I doubt you would go crazy if someone gave you a pat as opposed to a stroke.


Also, reaching out to touch horses I think is more intimidating than bringing your body close to them so that you don't have to reach so far. This definitely mimics natural interhorse behavior. They brush against one another all the time if they are friends, but reach out to one anther with teeth and hooves if they are not friends.
     

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