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        10-27-2013, 07:42 PM
      #11
    Trained
    Definitely all of the advice here is sound...Especially Endiku's.

    I worry for your safety with this one. Some horses will require an assertive, experienced handler. If he is already showing you these signs, then there is a problem. Some horses are just grumpy, others will escalate into dangerous behaviors, and if you are inexperienced you will not know the signs that will tell you when that is about to happen.
         
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        10-27-2013, 08:24 PM
      #12
    Green Broke
    What you have in your favor:

    1. You SOUND like you're on the up and up - meaning we have been approached by some fakes lately.

    2. You sound like you could hold your own in a bar fight, even if you're Five Foot Nuthin' and Aged.

    That means somewhere in there is the courage to conquer. However this is no doubt a "used and abused" buggy horse we're talking about.

    The Amish are notorious for abusing their buggy horses but treat the plow horses like half the gold at Fort Knox.

    Normally I would tell someone that can only spell the word "horse" to run as fast as they can away from a horse such as you describe.

    I'm still not sure that I shouldn't be saying that but:

    1. First and most important: What gender is this horse? You refer to it as a "he" but is it really? If it's a stallion, meaning it still has BOTH testicles, sorry but run don't walk away from this horse. You also say the horse blows at you which might be another indicator it's a stallion or a proud cut horse - either way not good, not good:(

    2. If it's a gelding, a stallion that has had its testicles removed, given the Amish are notorious for doing their own version of gelding which is a/k/a "proud cut" and they didn't get everything, run and don't walk away from this horse is still the better part of valor.

    3. If it's a cranky mare (it has a pair of boobs instead of testicles), you stand a chance but she's a dominant mare and you would have to quickly establish the alpha dominance over her, when you are in her presence.

    Honestly things aren't looking too good to keep the horse and even more honestly but the sad truth is the horse may very well be destined for the auction unless your friend can find someone that is excellent at rehabbing a horse such as this.

    Were it not an ex Amish buggy horse and it's a mare or gelding, I'd say with your grit, hang in there. BUT, I started breaking/training horses when I was 12 and I had a real penchant for re-schooling widowmakers and finding them good homes.

    I wouldn't have thought twice about this horse when I was in my 20's but even when I was in my 40's with all that experience, I probably would have passed unless I knew it had some exceptional ability to become either a great trail horse or do something noteworthy in the show ring.

    That was pretty much a "yes I guess not" answer that leans toward "find the horse another home".

    That being said, if you just can't walk away, you have to tell us the gender, and whatever history you can find out about the horse and we will try to help
         
        10-27-2013, 08:45 PM
      #13
    Foal
    Can't seem to post correctly and I've typed a couple novels already.

    Trying again...
         
        10-27-2013, 08:53 PM
      #14
    Foal
    Aha! That one worked!

    Okay, answers: Yes, he was a buggy horse, he's gelded, vet is here twice a year, and my other half does his hooves. He's very well cared for, just not worked.

    There's something about his face; there's good stuff in there. That's why I'm hell bent. I have no interest in jumping on him or getting crazy, I just know he has to be miserably bored. I want him happy and I want to be able to at least socialize and interact with him.

    The grump I live with would be a wealth of help BUT, he's an old rodeo rider that's pissed he gave it up, and he was severely injured at work over the summer. He gets aggravated when I ask and just throws the lead ropes and harnesses at me.

    I was afraid I'd get some of these answers. :/ I just know he'd be great. I guess I need to rethink my stubbornness if he'll be happier elsewhere.

    I didn't know what to expect here, and I'm super appreciative of all the knowledgeable replies. Just didn't feel right to ditch him simply because I don't know my a** from a hole in the ground. But it looks like it might be best.

    And yes, I'm a whole buck twenty, so the ground is going to hurt! Lol

    Oh, and thank you for the couple of emails I was unable to reply to.
         
        10-27-2013, 09:03 PM
      #15
    Foal
    And that proud cut thing? Gawd, I won't be able to sleep for a week pondering that one!

    Ugggh, hate this.
         
        10-27-2013, 09:19 PM
      #16
    Yearling
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    Originally Posted by Dilly    
    And that proud cut thing? Gawd, I won't be able to sleep for a week pondering that one!

    Ugggh, hate this.
    proud cut isn't nearly as common as people think, don't worry. It seems that any time a gelding acts studdy he must be 'proud cut' when really, any gelding can and will act studdy even if they're gelded perfectly. Heck.. My MARE acts studdy sometimes! (I.E. The "blowing" example being given as a sign of being proud cut - seen plenty of horses blow at each other, including mares!)

    Being an Amish throwaway does raise the chances, but still, I wouldn't worry too much about it.
         
        10-27-2013, 09:24 PM
      #17
    Foal
    Well you have to remember that the ultimate decision is yours Dilly; a lot of us are just trying to keep you around to see a few more summers and inform you on why it isn't the wisest decision for a person in your position with a sincere but severe lack of knowledge that would do this horse any good. Considering the fact that he used to be a buggy horse, there's a good chance that he's been driven nuts by the lack of activity. Take any hard working citizen, give them a few consecutive years off, and sure they'll enjoy it. But some will go insane after xamount of time.

    If you decide that you truly want this horse, you've gotten the advice you need to stay on course and keep him. It's simply summed up to: find yourself a good trainer, get yourself hands on-and-off experience elsewhere, and leave him space until you're both in a better position to deal with each other. You most certainly wouldn't be the first person hell-bent on seeing a positive change in a damaged/unruly horse, and I know for a fact that you won't be the last. The difference is learning your limits before you get involved with a horse, especially one that's already displaying the "I control you therefore, get lost" behavior that you're describing.

    You need a confident, assertive trainer with a wealth of experience specifically related to what your horse is displaying that'd be willing to take him on. Which is a pricey, pricey thing depending on your situation, your horse's personality and problems, and of course how much you're going to be charged for the trainer's time. If you find the horse is worth it, then that's your choice.. you seem to have a good head on your shoulders. Take the decision seriously.

    What do you want to DO with this horse in the long run? If you want a pasture ornament, I'm not confident he's the horse for you. He's already suffering for it.
    What can you Provide for this horse to get him where you want him to be? You Need to provide the training if you plan on keeping him.
    What are you capable of doing for this horse, presently and in the future? From providing feed and the like to training and a safe home, you need to determine if you're a good fit for him as much as vice versa.
    How much money are you willing to put into him? Give yourself a figure.
    Who supports you in this endeavor? Will they keep that support rolling? Are you alone in this desire? (From the sounds of it, your partner certainly doesn't feel the same.) If you get involved with this horse are you going it alone or not?
    How will you determine you need to cut your losses? When is enough enough for you? When he physically hurts you? Drains your pockets? Gets booted out of the trainer's?
    Is it practical for you to keep him? Yes or no is your ultimate decision.

    Just some questions for you to consider.
         
        10-27-2013, 09:43 PM
      #18
    Started
    Well, you are right in saying that the "grump you live with" would be a lot of help. Seems like you have two grumps...one with two feet and one with four.
    The horse can be handled at least for the vet and having his feet trimmed.

    At this point I'd get the evaluation of a pro and go from there.
    You know, we all started somewhere. We just didn't pop out into this world with horse smarts. We can give advice but we aren't there to see the situation. And even if we could be we may all have a little different slant on it.

    Good luck. Keep us posted, pleeze!
         
        10-28-2013, 08:53 AM
      #19
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Dustbunny    
    Well, you are right in saying that the "grump you live with" would be a lot of help. Seems like you have two grumps...one with two feet and one with four.
    The horse can be handled at least for the vet and having his feet trimmed.

    At this point I'd get the evaluation of a pro and go from there.
    You know, we all started somewhere. We just didn't pop out into this world with horse smarts. We can give advice but we aren't there to see the situation. And even if we could be we may all have a little different slant on it.

    Good luck. Keep us posted, pleeze!
    You are dead on! :) There's more horse knowledge in his pinky than I could ever acquire, and I have to sneak onto a forum and scour the internet for every last tidbit. Maddening, really.

    Prodded some more last night and I got, "He's a thoroughbred. He's schizo. He'll always be like a mare before her season. You wanna mess with him? Tie him up and mess with him." Then he went back to being sweet as pie! Lol Grrrrr

    Yes, he's good for the vet and getting his feet done. He's not entirely crazy. He doesn't know what to do, and I don't know what to do!
         
        10-28-2013, 09:08 AM
      #20
    Green Broke
    I would get help, if you want to help him.

    A horse won't be miserable if left with food and water, but is he on his own, or does he have a companion? Horses are herd animals, and most (99.99%) do not do well on their own.

    If he can be left in the field, do so. Have you got a local barn you can go and take lessons at? Explain your situation. Some lesson barns will hand you a horse that is tacked up. Explain you want to learn ground up; how to move around the horse, how to pick up behaviours, groom, basic care, basic first aid etc.

    Going gung ho at this stage is going to end up very badly, to the point where you may never want to go near a horse again.

    Get educated first, then apply that to him. You may be able to take a trainer that you learn with on other horses with you to help out when you are ready.
         

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