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        10-17-2013, 03:11 PM
    Green Broke
    Originally Posted by jimmyp    
    You and I are rowing the same boat CowChick77, but neither one of us would get anywhere depending on the others directions. Haha.

    LOL, oh he!!, sorry Jim, I just re-read what you bad
    We be rowing in the same direction now
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        10-17-2013, 03:53 PM
    Oh my goodness you guys.

    There is no way to attach a curb chain/chin strap (We are talking about the same thing here) to a snaffle where it would engage when you pulled. You could put barb wire down there and when you picked up it wouldn't make contact with the chin. The only purpose it serves is to keep the bit from going through the horse's mouth, and yes, I use one on every loose ring snaffle I own. Typically I just tie a nylon string down there, but that's mainly because I can buy that by the foot for the same price as a pretty chin strap, and use it on multiple bridles

    It's none of my business what you put in your horse's mouth...I ride with twisted snaffles as a training tool. In a perfect world you won't ever have to leave a smooth snaffle, but hey, you ride soft in a twisted and you'll be just fine. Just the key word there being soft, soft, soft. If it's all the same to you though, until you get a little more experience, I'd put in a smooth.
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        10-17-2013, 04:02 PM

    I don't use a curb chain with most snaffles and I almost never use one with a twisted wire bit. Also I have found that a nice snaffle with four inch shafts and a curb chain is way better than any twisted wire maybe try it sometime? Well good luck on your bit adventures!
        10-17-2013, 04:26 PM
    Lyra-you use a twisted wire often? I sure hope not. As far as a "snaffle with 4 inch shafts"-what are you referring to? That could describe both a Tom thumb, as well as an Argentine snaffle and probably others as well.

    I think the question is-what is the OP looking to accomplish? Hw can that best be accomplished without needing such harsh bits.
        10-17-2013, 05:40 PM
    I think she means 4 inch shanks.

    A snaffle will never, ever have shanks. There might be a single jointed mouthpiece, but if there is leverage or gag, it is NOT a snaffle. A true snaffle only has o rings, d rings, full cheeks, a spoon...etc. But never shanks.
        10-18-2013, 12:31 AM
    I'll have to go look at the name I'm not sure. I got three bits from my trainer a while back, there all the same and it seams like every horse I put one on responds incredibly well!! Like Sunny my horse who I started in a red D ring snaffle and when he started going through that I put him in a pretty harsh O ring twisted wire and when he went though that.... I used this one and I've been riding him in it all summer and fall and he has totally changed and has not started going through this one at all ever!
        10-18-2013, 03:01 AM
    The last thing reminds me... We ride a horse here with either a simple loose ring 3 pieced (french link) snaffle, or a pessoa bit - however we do not use the lower rings, the reigns are attached to the bit. He sometimes fights against it, does not want to take it on, shakes his head and whatnot..

    For a photoshoot we put a pelhalm on with 2 reigns.

    One just like that (I always use 3 piece bits) and guess what? The horse dropped his head, rolled up, his head was down, he was flexing his neck.. but he was never on the bit.. that was that one time when he was ridden with a pelhalm.
    We are back on our snaffles, he rides well and has started to carry himself in contact and in frame.
        10-31-2013, 12:15 PM
    I prefer a full cheek snaffle even in western riding for this exactly. I'm not a big fan of curb chains. I have a twisted snaffle with a copper roller in the middle and full cheek. You can also use rubber but guards instead.
        11-06-2013, 12:39 PM
    Myler actually does make a comfort snaffle with 5" shanks.
        11-06-2013, 04:53 PM
    The link did not work for me, I was directed back to the site. Is anyone familiar with the Junior Cowhorse bit that can be bought at Tractor Supply? I've been told by a trainer that it's a very good bit.

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