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        10-16-2013, 08:32 AM
      #31
    Weanling
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    Originally Posted by frlsgirl    
    I would stay away from stallions especially if you describe yourself as "green" - stallions are rarely a good match for unexperienced handlers/riders. I won't go near any stallions; and I'm not completely green.
    Not picking on you frlsgirl, but this is the kind of statement that gets me a little agitated......

    While I agree that there are folks out there who don't have any business on a stud, I have had more bad experiences with mares than I have had with stud horses. The fact is that if properly handled from a young age, most studs can be managed with little to no trouble. Most folks who have issues with a stud horse are people who assume that their horse is carying around 2 excuses to act like a jerk and when said stud acts like a fool they say "oh, he can't help it, he is a stud". We have had a number of stud horses over the years, from HOT 1D-2D barrel horses, to western pleasure, to gaited and any of them could be, and were rode by anyone.

    I am by no means saying that the OP needs to look for a stud, or even should she consider one, my point is that alot of new folks to horses hear stuff like this, and are scared of stud horses from the time they get into horses till they get out of them. I find that the vast majority of the people who are going around pushing the anti stud position, have never even been around a stud and really wouldnt know one if they saw one.

    End rant.

    Jim
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        10-16-2013, 09:09 AM
      #32
    Foal
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    Originally Posted by jimmyp    
    Not picking on you frlsgirl, but this is the kind of statement that gets me a little agitated......

    While I agree that there are folks out there who don't have any business on a stud, I have had more bad experiences with mares than I have had with stud horses. The fact is that if properly handled from a young age, most studs can be managed with little to no trouble.I know what your saying is true because my brother (he was GREEN btw), is the one who got Wildfire. He had seen how he was in his(Wildfire) environment and he was(and is) pretty calm for a stallion...even experienced riders have said that to my brother. At first he was actually thinking of selling him, and getting a calmer horse. But he watched videos, asked for advice, worked with him, and now? You should see the transformation(he has also gotten him to bow as well)! They match perfectly...he was green, but not anymore. So I understand why some people would give me that advice(I can give you quite a few stories during all that went on with training Wildfire, it was a process, but a rewarding one)...and I would have stayed away from stallions had not my brother gone and turned the tables around... Most folks who have issues with a stud horse are people who assume that their horse is carying around 2 excuses to act like a jerk and when said stud acts like a fool they say "oh, he can't help it, he is a stud". We have had a number of stud horses over the years, from HOT 1D-2D barrel horses, to western pleasure, to gaited and any of them could be, and were rode by anyone.

    I am by no means saying that the OP needs to look for a stud, or even should she consider one, my point is that alot of new folks to horses hear stuff like this, and are scared of stud horses from the time they get into horses till they get out of them. I find that the vast majority of the people who are going around pushing the anti stud position, have never even been around a stud and really wouldnt know one if they saw one.If anything jimmyp I am more determined to ride Wildfire(not sure if that makes sense to anyone lol!), and work with him! Now I have some motivation...*grin* Thanks for saying this jimmyp!

    ~Ivy~


    End rant.

    Jim

    Everyone, I hold no grudge or anything(those who said I should not be messing with a stallion...), just giving my honest answer (the experience) that I've personally seen...thanks for all the advice (even if its the hard-to-take-in kind), and I appreciate that everyone gives they're opinion up front, so thanks!

    ~Ivanna~
         
        10-16-2013, 01:55 PM
      #33
    Foal
    As far as character matches go, it can go either way. Both my lesson horse and my lease horse are very laid back and go-with-the-flow horses, like me.

    On the other hand, the horse I used to lease was used for gymkhana, and once he's opened up he's OPENED up. But, since I tend to be a mellow rider, we kept each other balanced (until his owner moved him to a crap barn and he went nuts, but that's beside the point...)
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        10-16-2013, 03:31 PM
      #34
    Yearling
    JimmyP - I didn't say all studs are bad, just that they are "rarely" a good match for someone who describes themselves as "green".

    I'm sure that there are perfectly well mannered studs out there that can be managed just fine by experienced horse handlers.

    However, I personally wouldn't roll the dice on that and match a newby with a stud.
         
        10-16-2013, 04:19 PM
      #35
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by frlsgirl    
    JimmyP - I didn't say all studs are bad, just that they are "rarely" a good match for someone who describes themselves as "green".

    I'm sure that there are perfectly well mannered studs out there that can be managed just fine by experienced horse handlers.

    However, I personally wouldn't roll the dice on that and match a newby with a stud.
    I agree you never said that. I just needed a quote to frame my rant.

    Jim
         
        10-17-2013, 11:45 AM
      #36
    Foal
    Finding the right horse is like any other relationship, some aspects need to match, others need to be opposites. You probably don't want a timid horse with a timid rider, they'd never get anywhere if the horse spooks at a new sight and the rider is nervous about the horse spooking; but active go-get-'er personalities do well together because both horse a rider want to be going and trying new things. A lazy rider probably doesn't want to work to get a lazy horse moving.

    I prefer active, bold horses, which is pretty similar to my personality, but I don't want to argue with a horse over dominance. But it also depends on what you want to be doing with the horse. I've been up on every horse at my current instructor's place, and I actually prefer the lazy, grouchy pony. He does not want to go fast or collect and he makes darn sure you know it, but when he does finally decide to give in he moves beautifully, will jump anything, and really, he makes me work for it. I don't take riding lessons to sit up on a push-button pony and just plop around a few fences, I go to make myself a better rider and the more the horse makes me work for it, the more I learn exactly what I need to do to get the results I want. But I wouldn't want to own a horse that makes me work that hard all of the time.

    *As a side note, he is a stallion. 20yo, under 14hh, perfectly well behaved, sorta. He would never "really" do something wrong, but when working in the arena with a pretty bay mare, he tries to speed up a bit when behind her, slow down when passing or in front of her, and takes a lot more leg to get a smooth turn away from her. He is not a terror of a stallion and is probably the best behaved stallion I have ever been around, but him simply being a stallion just takes more work and thought from the rider (watching where mares are in the ring, if a mare has a less experienced rider, mare is in heat, etc) than a gelding or a mare. They can make wonderful mounts, but *usually* a gelding or mare will make a better riding mount and trail partner than an equally trained stallion.
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        10-17-2013, 11:13 PM
      #37
    Foal
    Thanks Southern Grace! I'll keep what you said in mind.
    Yeah...sometimes I would NOT want a horse like me...no way no how! Lol!

    ~Ivy~

    P.S. I see you are from Texas...nice!
         

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