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        09-05-2013, 12:09 PM
      #41
    Green Broke
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    Originally Posted by IowaPsychRN    
    I am going to begin by taking lessons. My mare is well broke but I think she was feeding off the other horse when it spooked. It was getting dark out and some kids decided to flash around a flashlight and beat on a fence with stick. I know problem cannot be solved online....I just need some reassurance that maybe I can get over this.
    You are just making excuses for your badly behaved horse. A good beginner's horse is phased by any of this, and I work my two 7yo geldings in these conditions to get them over any fears. I pulled burrs the other night in the pitchy dark just so that they knew I could do that, too.
    Lessons on GOOD, solid school horses will teach you what to expect from your horse. That's how I learned and it has stuck with me 40 years later. I suggest that you sell your green horse, and save up to buy a reliably broken beginner horse. People think when they read threads on forums like this that they can afford an inexpensive horse and enjoy the experience. Just bc someone here talks about spending and fixing a horse with problems doesn't mean that a course or a method or a book has taught them how.
    Most of us who have owned for a long time--I have owned/trained horses for 28 years--have had good experiences early on and built our training knowledge through many horses. My DH and I have owned ~35 horses over the years, and I pick mine more wisely now that I am in my 50's.
    You will think it a scam for me to say that many people here sell good, reliable horses. I am not one of them, but I recognize by pictures and videos who has a good beginner horse for sale, and who is selling a green horse with a good foundation and good attitude. YOU DO NOT WANT TO BUY GREEN AGAIN!
    I have said this before but you need to find trainers to find your next horse. You are looking for the horse that has been shown a lot, but doesn't measure up to the owner's current expectations. Reasons to buy can be:
    1) too short/tall
    2) wrong color
    3) wrong breed for the sport
    4) not fast enough
    5) can't jump/race/spin well enough
    Do NOT ever buy a horse that is listed "For Experienced Riders" bc the owner couldn't control their horse and is trying to keep someone like you from purchasing and getting hurt.
    Find out how much an ER visit and extended hospital visit are these days, and factor that into the $cost.
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        09-05-2013, 12:35 PM
      #42
    Green Broke
    ^Even the most broke of horses can spook, have an off day, or make a butt of themselves. They are animals, and it happens. You just need to be confident enough to handle it, and handle the horse you've purchased.

    OP, you are taking the right course of action. Working with a reputable trainer is the way to go. Let us know how it goes!
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        09-05-2013, 01:39 PM
      #43
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Corporal    
    You are just making excuses for your badly behaved horse. A good beginner's horse is phased by any of this, and I work my two 7yo geldings in these conditions to get them over any fears. I pulled burrs the other night in the pitchy dark just so that they knew I could do that, too.
    Lessons on GOOD, solid school horses will teach you what to expect from your horse. That's how I learned and it has stuck with me 40 years later. I suggest that you sell your green horse, and save up to buy a reliably broken beginner horse. People think when they read threads on forums like this that they can afford an inexpensive horse and enjoy the experience. Just bc someone here talks about spending and fixing a horse with problems doesn't mean that a course or a method or a book has taught them how.
    Most of us who have owned for a long time--I have owned/trained horses for 28 years--have had good experiences early on and built our training knowledge through many horses. My DH and I have owned ~35 horses over the years, and I pick mine more wisely now that I am in my 50's.
    You will think it a scam for me to say that many people here sell good, reliable horses. I am not one of them, but I recognize by pictures and videos who has a good beginner horse for sale, and who is selling a green horse with a good foundation and good attitude. YOU DO NOT WANT TO BUY GREEN AGAIN!
    I have said this before but you need to find trainers to find your next horse. You are looking for the horse that has been shown a lot, but doesn't measure up to the owner's current expectations. Reasons to buy can be:
    1) too short/tall
    2) wrong color
    3) wrong breed for the sport
    4) not fast enough
    5) can't jump/race/spin well enough
    Do NOT ever buy a horse that is listed "For Experienced Riders" bc the owner couldn't control their horse and is trying to keep someone like you from purchasing and getting hurt.
    Find out how much an ER visit and extended hospital visit are these days, and factor that into the $cost.
    is a little harsh? --- I am not real sure because I am new

    Don't herd animals react in the same way as the others in the herd react unless it has accepted you as the herd leader?
         
        09-05-2013, 02:13 PM
      #44
    Green Broke
    I am not being harsh, and I don't have to be "right." Horses are 8x-10x larger than we are. Think of the human-horse as house cat-human and you can see that a small movement from the horse can hurt us, just like tripping over the cat hurts the cat.
    The market is FULL of horses that do NOT have the training for anybody who hasn't both learned to ride AND learned to train. The OP admits both.
    I am bothered by the constant stream of people hurt by being bucked off. I hate to hear about anybody being hurt by their horse. I've been bucked off many times over the years, but the one that broke my arm was a horse that I hadn't prepared for my hobby, CW. He bucked me a full 9 feet in the air, according to my friends at that event, and I took the brunt on my right humorous. The cannon went off right next to him and he panicked. Not too many here park their horse next to a scary cannon, but All of my other horses--except my 7yo QH--handle gunfire just fine bc I've trained them to it. My arm took 6 months to fully heal and ruined my 2004 riding season bc it happened in the beginning of May.
    Look for the thread~
    Before Accident/ Accident photos
    Being bucked off is not falling off your bike on a pleasure ride. Certainly many people new to riding and horses do not expect such problems from their purchase and often believe that they are at fault. We don't expect big problems like this when we buy a car, but it's very hard to know where to go and what to do after you find out you bought a horse that wasn't trained for a beginning rider.
    Every week we get a new thread on this very topic.
    I was offering helpful advice. Since you and the OP didn't pay for it, take it or leave it. I don't have any horses that want to buck me off. Should I get a buck I know how to stick it AND I know how to train it out of the horse.
         
        09-05-2013, 04:27 PM
      #45
    Green Broke
    ^Experienced riders get bucked off. Or fall. Crap happens.

    I know that's not the case here, I'm just tossing that out here.
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        09-06-2013, 06:11 PM
      #46
    Foal
    I do not think my horse is green. She spooked, I spooked..... I am not going to jump the gun and sell her. I will let my trainer evaluate her and give me her opinion. Over the past week I have been thinking about how much worse it could have been. She did not take off and did not buck.
         
        09-06-2013, 08:42 PM
      #47
    Green Broke
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by IowaPsychRN    
    I do not think my horse is green. She spooked, I spooked..... I am not going to jump the gun and sell her. I will let my trainer evaluate her and give me her opinion. Over the past week I have been thinking about how much worse it could have been. She did not take off and did not buck.
    I really think this a great idea. Online, while there are so many great opinions, no one can see your horse, how it behaves, the circumstances and how you ride. If you get a good trainer out they can ride, they can watch you ride, and help you work something out that is safe and suitable. Let us know how it all goes!
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        09-07-2013, 01:10 AM
      #48
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Corporal    
    . I suggest that you sell your green horse, and save up to buy a reliably broken beginner horse. People think when they read threads on forums like this that they can afford an inexpensive horse and enjoy the experience.
    I appreciate your advice Corporal, but nowhere on here have I mentioned HOW MUCH I paid for my horse and how do you know I need to SAVE UP to buy another one?

    My first horse was $5000+ (previous owner paid that, not me) with another $5000 invested by his previous owner on training. He placed 9th at the TWH Celebration in a class of 24 horses and was reserve grand champion in light shod western pleasure in 2011. He was not green and was well trained but I could not ride him because he was too young and too much for me to handle. Fact is, I do enjoy my experience with my horses. I love doing groundwork and just being around them. Riding is not my top priority. Do I want to ride with confidence? You bet, but I'm going to take it one day at a time.
         
        09-11-2013, 12:43 AM
      #49
    Foal
    I had my first riding lesson today. I was a bit nervous at first, but my trainer was awesome and put me at ease. I learned a lot about balance and was given excercises to do to help my flexibility. This was my first time in an English saddle. I was surprised at how comfortable it was.
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        09-11-2013, 01:11 AM
      #50
    Green Broke
    I'm so glad to hear things are going well! I think you've made the right choice <3
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