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post #11 of 36 Old 02-06-2014, 08:51 AM Thread Starter
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So the vet came yesterday and I wasn't able to go because I was at work. So the barn owner asked the questions for me. The vet wouldn't do the blood work because he said it wouldn't tell us anything because she isn't deficient she is just under worked....

Granted its been -15 degrees so yeah I haven't road much lately. Plus the fact that she gets hurt and doesn't heal for months yeah she hasn't been ridden a lot lately but I really do not think that is the issue at all as when I was riding her 3 or 4 times a weeks the same stuff was going on. He just put her on a new anti-inflammatory and that was it... very unhappy.

I will probably call another vet... when depends on how much this guy charged me.
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post #12 of 36 Old 02-06-2014, 09:07 AM
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Change your vet....she obviously has something going on with her. When my TB mare doesnt get enough work she gets bouncy bouncy bouncy lol!

I have her on 12 ounces AM & 12 ounces PM Blue Seal Sentinel performance LS, one cup beet pulp (soaked of course), 15 G AM and 15 G PM of ener-vital vitamins, and flax seeds, and as much good quality hay as she can get into her. She has all day turnout and in at night. She is in great shape.

I have noticed with TB they relly need good quality feed, it shows on them immediatly when something is "off". Good luck
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Change your vet....she obviously has something going on with her. When my TB mare doesnt get enough work she gets bouncy bouncy bouncy lol!

I have her on 12 ounces AM & 12 ounces PM Blue Seal Sentinel performance LS, one cup beet pulp (soaked of course), 15 G AM and 15 G PM of ener-vital vitamins, and flax seeds, and as much good quality hay as she can get into her. She has all day turnout and in at night. She is in great shape.

I have noticed with TB they relly need good quality feed, it shows on them immediatly when something is "off". Good luck

Also she is not mare-ish at all no bitchyness nothing she is never uppity with is also weird for an ottb. She is my first horse and I don't know what to do. I feel obligated to use the barn vet because I'm boarding. She keeps weight on fine. Just has never been able to build the muscle up in her back. The vet did suggest multi-vitamins because of her slow healing but I just don't feel comfortable with that answer. There has to be more too it I feel it.
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Get a second opinion from a different practice. The muscle building isn't necessarily attributed to any particular vitamin/mineral deficiency. We'd also need to know the quantity and correctness of the work she's doing.
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A deficiency sounds likely, vitamins A & E almost definitely, possibly a lack of quality protein as well. Look into getting a membership with FeedXL.com- it will help you determine how much of each vitamin/mineral your horse needs, and what is being fed in your current diet. Then you can try changing the diet around to better fill the nutritional gaps.

Just as an example, 1-1/2 quarts of pelleted feed is probably around 2 lbs. Decade Complete Diet 13 only has 3600 IU of vitamin A per pound, so ~7200 IU of vitamin A daily. For my horse (1000 lb horse in light/moderate work), FeedXL recommended >30,000 IU vitamin A daily, so 7200 IU just wouldn't cut it.

You might try looking into one of the various ration balancer products- most feed companies make at least one. They're nutrient dense, high in quality protein, and low calorie and designed to be fed at a rate of 1-2 lbs per day. Purina Enrich Plus, Nutrena Empower Balance, and Triple Crown 30% Supplement are some of the nationally distributed ones. From their website, it looks like EQUI-PRO MVP Supplement Pellet might be Poulin's ration balancer (same company that makes Decade Complete Diet 13)
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Because of the rain rot I definitely think she has deficiency in vitamin a I would get her some vitamin a carrots are a great source.
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Why are you second-guessing the vet? If your horse has high withers don't expect it's back to look well muscled. It takes a lot of work, true collection to build those up. Too much vitamin A can have detrimental effects on any animal. I'd never recommend it as I'm not a vet and neither are the others on here.
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Get a second opinion from a different practice. The muscle building isn't necessarily attributed to any particular vitamin/mineral deficiency. We'd also need to know the quantity and correctness of the work she's doing.
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Like I said now its cold and we haven't been doing much at all. But over the summer I would ride 3 to 4 times a week walk, trot, canter for about an hour or so I also jump2'-2'3" and we attempt to barrel race. Not way hard work but enough that you would think her spine wouldn't stick out. Her butt and leg muscles are huge it is just her back. She really hasn't lost any noticeable amount of muscle this winter. We are starting to use draw reins thinking rounding up might help her back.
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Why are you second-guessing the vet? If your horse has high withers don't expect it's back to look well muscled. It takes a lot of work, true collection to build those up. Too much vitamin A can have detrimental effects on any animal. I'd never recommend it as I'm not a vet and neither are the others on here.
the vet wouldn't even look at her... why comment when your going be negative and if no one knows anything on this site why are you a member??
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Saddle bag was giving sound advice. Tubby why ask, then be rude .
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