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    09-06-2013, 08:58 AM
  #21
Yearling
I took as many online courses as I could because I hated the classes. Talk to a teacher or if you school has a website, there should be information on online classes you can take and when. Sometimes if you only have a couple of classes in school than a couple online it makes it easier to deal with and you can go home sooner. Strongly recommend trying to finish high school.

School was extremely frustrating and stressful, bullied by teachers, and students alike. Forget it if I had to be in a group project, I would have rather failed than go through it, or do it all on my own. You can not put me a worst place, full of people, having to sit still, inside, it made me sick, nervous, a complete wreck. There was no point of me being there, because I wasn't learn anyway.

Should say, if you can, stick out high school, don't compare it to life outside of school, and don't let it effect what you do with your life after. If I had listened to half in the people in high school I would not own my business, have a horse and, savings, and now learning to work for a farrier. At least %80 of the people I graduated with (5 years ago) went to college, didn't get a job, now married, have kids and a dead end job at a fish plant, roe cutter or a deck hand job on a seasonal boat, none pay very well. Its what you make of it.
     
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    09-06-2013, 09:10 AM
  #22
Green Broke
Keep in mind....graduating high school doesn't stop people from making bad choices. It doesn't guarantee anything other than give you a better baseline chance. If you can't read, write, do math or use a computer it doesn't matter if you finished high school first in class. You need a basic set of skills to get started working and a diploma/GED lets employers know that you should have some amount of basic skills they can use.

They will almost always choose the diploma over none.

There's always a way and if you are seriously having that much trouble then you need to talk to someone and get help changing your situation (maybe you need therapy or online classes or whatever). Keep talking to people until you get help if you have to!
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    09-06-2013, 09:20 AM
  #23
Green Broke
What I see in my area is limited jobs for people coming out of college. Most people who are working jobs you don't need degrees for (food service, retail, office positions) have 4 year degrees and are hired over those without. Why? Because why would you eat roadkill when you could be dinning on filet mignon? Employers are getting more "bang for the buck" by hiring college grads. Now, the people who never graduated are having an extremely tough time finding jobs since the college grads are hogging them.

Another thing that has kept me motivated is watching my single mother with a GED struggle through being a truck driver at UPS. Yes, it pays well (almost $90,000 a year) the benefits are awesome (my sister and I got braces for free!) And there is always OT.... BUT.... my mom gets up at 6am every morning, starts delivering at 9am doesn't finish until about 7:30 or 8pm (could be up to 10pm around the holidays) and doesn't get home before 9pm every night. She does this 5 days a week and it certainly taken a toll on her physical and mental wellbeing! No thanks!
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    09-06-2013, 09:28 AM
  #24
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I think the first think you have to do is sit down with someone that's outside of your situation and discuss all your reasons you hating school so much
How do your parents feel about this?
Do they know what's going on?
If there are people at school that are making you feel this way then you need to deal with that because you can't be giving them the chance to maybe ruin the rest of your life
You also need to be able to know how to deal with these sort of problems because life outside of school is also full of exactly the same sort of people that are maybe causing your current miseries.
     
    09-06-2013, 09:30 AM
  #25
Showing
More education will always win out over less in the job market. Those rare instances notwithstanding, you're extremely unlikely to find a job making enough money to support just yourself, never mind supporting luxury items like horses.

If you want to rent and never own a home, be in the lowest percentile of wage earners, have no retirement savings and have to live on cheap, canned cat food when you get too old and broken to work, then go for it. If you want more than that, then get a good education.

The job market will pick back up again, and when it does those hiring are going to want people who have at least some college under their belts. No industries other than those that use unskilled laborers are going to hire a high school dropout. The absolute worst thing you can do for your future is to drop out of school.
     
    09-06-2013, 09:31 AM
  #26
Weanling
McDonalds? You will be over looked time and time again on applications if you don't graduate. Employers aren't going to consider why you dropped out. They'll probably just assume you didn't have the drive to finish. Horses are expensive. I have a part time job at a fast food place and right now I can support my horses but if I had to pay rent, electric and other bills? It would be a lot harder to swing it. Have you talked to your parents? Would they consider homeschooling? If you do decide to quit, at least acquire a GED. That will look better than nothing. Consider all the pros and cons before you make that decision. :)
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    09-06-2013, 10:57 AM
  #27
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I've been involved in the hiring process for some time now, and I can tell you that people who don't finish high school do get looked over. The first comment is usually "If they didn't finish high school, whats to stay they will stick with a job?". Although its unfair to label everyone that hasnt finished high school that way, that is how many veiw it.

I took up home schooling in 8th grade because I had a hard time with some subjects and breezed through others, and school didnt allow any flexability for that. I was tormented in elementary school for being different by the kids and looked down on and yelled at by my teachers because I couldnt pick up on certain subjects fast enough. I remember the teacher repeatedly yelling at me for mixing up the lower case b and d, and not being able to tell my left from my right. It wasnt until high school I was diagnosed with severe dyslexia.

By the time I got to grade 12 I didnt see the point in what I was learning, and I was working part time in the trades and earning good money, so why waste time on school? However, I knew people who had dropped out and had to go back and get their GED, and I knew I didnt want to have to do that. I'm so glad I got my diploma. I don't have to worry about being judged on not finishing while looking for a job, and if/when I change carreers, I don't have to worry about going back to get my GED.

OP, find a way to finish high school.
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    09-06-2013, 11:08 AM
  #28
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Rick you also home school right? I admire you :P
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I have a hard time agreeing with High School being a must finish to get a job to afford anything. I agree a diploma is very important and can help get better opportunities, but not a must have to afford things in life. I raised and afforded 5 kids, 7 horses, 3 dogs and 4 goats without a diploma because I had a kid my senior year and decided at that time it was better to be a provider than paper educated.

I have lived better than most of my class who finished high school and doing better now than most of those who went on to college.


I agree that if you are having a hard time dealing with teachers(leaders) in the education system as well as other students then you have a much larger underlying issue that needs addressed. That issue will impair you from having more than the lack of a diploma will. I hope you seek counseling for that before it becomes your handicap. This is my thoughts on the information you posted and hope you understand why some of us feel you need help with it.
     
    09-06-2013, 11:28 AM
  #29
Green Broke
For many people, high school wasn't the "best time of our lives". It certainly wasn't for me.

But I agree with everyone else. Tough it out, and finish up. Even if it's just receiving your GED, or doing online classes. You will thank yourself in the end...
     
    09-06-2013, 11:28 AM
  #30
Foal
Sorry to hear about your experience Original Poster, and unlike alot of the folks commenting, I think you can do plenty with out a high school diploma. You can get a GED....tha's what I did many years ago, and just because you hate school or get traumatized at school does NOT mean you can't handle the rest of the world. I was the same way, and I've never regretting dropping out and getting my GED.

Have you considered homeschooling? I hated school so much that I homeschooled all 6 of my kids. They are VERY thankful. All are happy and successful and none have gotten GED's. All have jobs..my oldest owns a store. No diploma required. =)
     

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