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post #31 of 65 Old 09-06-2013, 11:29 AM
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Yes, let's ENCOURAGE people to go through life uneducated, shall we? That isn't likely to backfire AT ALL.

To those saying, 'Naw, you don't need no edumacashun, just get a GED', you do know a GED is the equivalent of a HS diploma, right? So why not just get the danged diploma in the first place, instead of having to go back later? Even those who homeschool get a diploma, for crying out loud.

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post #32 of 65 Old 09-06-2013, 11:43 AM
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Yes, let's ENCOURAGE people to go through life uneducated, shall we? That isn't likely to backfire AT ALL.

To those saying, 'Naw, you don't need no edumacashun, just get a GED', you do know a GED is the equivalent of a HS diploma, right? So why not just get the danged diploma in the first place, instead of having to go back later? Even those who homeschool get a diploma, for crying out loud.
Ummm, being homeschooled or Learning things on your own doesn't mean you are uneducated. Teachers aren't the only people who can teach you things. If that were true then you must have stopped learning the day after graduation.

And if a GED is the equivalent, then why not get one and not waste time locked in a school feeling bad. And finishing school can take years, the GED test can be done in much less time.

Most high schoolers start at the bottom any way. Mcdonald's type jobs, so if you get basic jobs, do a great job and get a good work reputation you can go far and work your way up.
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Getting the education is only a part of high school or a GED. Demonstrating that you can accomplish a goal is the bigger picture. Most employers realize that what you learn in high school as far as academics isn't usually very advantageous to the job market, but learning the skills to make it through, having the motivation to complete a GED, social skills and dealing with tough spots -- these are all a part of "growing up" and maturity. One way or another you have got to deal with your issues.

So, YES, finish high school or get a GED online, or in night classes with adults. Whatever way you need to do it.

Also remember, this is not even a week into highschool. You didn't even complete a day. If you really, honestly can say to yourself that you put forth a strong effort to make it through the day, then you have much larger worries than completing highschool. If that's the case, get some help.

Call Canada's children's helpline 1-800-668-6868. They will lead you to resources in your area. The kids helpline is not just for little kids. They help teens a lot. Call them. Help yourself, protect your future. Make the call.
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Well, I really want to know what job I could get to support myself and a few horses in the future, without a high school diploma. I know this question kind of seems broad, but I'm as green as they can get.
Umm...None. Maybe low level retail, but you'll never be able to support yourself, let alone any animals...especially horses.

Finish high school. And go to college. Look at the statistics on high school drop outs, compared to diploma/GED holders, and then look at college graduates. Even a 2Year associate degree is going to open up endless possibilities.

Horses can be put on the back burner for now. Your future is much more important then them.
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Without a high school diploma, you can't even get into the armed forces. It's a good place to learn a trade. Keep in mind that enough doors are closed these days and that more will close with each year you don't complete. It is pretty hard to support horses while working at McDonalds. Waitresses can make good money IF they are good and IF they get hired by a restaurant with a large clientele. Even recently graduated teachers are having a tough time finding work. Many are having to go to the northern reserves.
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It's a fact that diplomas from high schools look better. Whether or not its true GEDs aren't a great way to impress an employer.

As for home schooling, I never got it. There were MANY things I couldn't have learned without the aide of a teacher. If it were as easy as teaching it to yourself why would we even have teachers? For me it was spanish and especially math I found very difficult. By the time I got to high school I could go asking my mother or grandparents to help me, they had no idea. Plus, how would you so chemistry/science labs? Do a gym class? How do you not fall behind, not work wise but education level?
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It's a fact that diplomas from high schools look better. Whether or not its true GEDs aren't a great way to impress an employer.

As for home schooling, I never got it. There were MANY things I couldn't have learned without the aide of a teacher. If it were as easy as teaching it to yourself why would we even have teachers? For me it was spanish and especially math I found very difficult. By the time I got to high school I could go asking my mother or grandparents to help me, they had no idea. Plus, how would you so chemistry/science labs? Do a gym class? How do you not fall behind, not work wise but education level?
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well, it's cool that school worked for you, but a one size fits all education isn't always the best for everyone. And um, if your parents and grandparents didn't know the answers to what you were learning how were they managing? Maybe you were being taught something you didn't need. And as for why we need teacher? Well, to provide perfectly suitable child care from age K-12. In the grand scheme of things sending your kids off to be raised by strangers is a pretty new idea.
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Homeschooling can be a great way of learning. I was going to homeschool my kids, but given my aversion to social activities and that we never had any close neighbours until the last 10 years, I figured I would be hindering them too much in that area. Homeschoolers spend a lot of time at public resource locations: libraries, museums, city hall, courts, etc. They can join sports teams, community clubs and many areas have a homeschool network to encourage use of other's resources. Homeschoolers tend to do a lot of self-learning. This is a huge skill that many people that attend formal institutional learning don't acquire until post-secondary.

Homeschool success is not limited by the knowledge of the adults in the pupil's immediate family.
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And as for why we need teacher? Well, to provide perfectly suitable child care from age K-12. In the grand scheme of things sending your kids off to be raised by strangers is a pretty new idea.
Sure, if you consider 1635 to be a current year, since the first public school in America was opened then. Schools in Europe, the Middle East and the UK go back even farther, but let's not worry about actual facts, shall we?

You certainly don't seem to know much about the educational system, even though you're crowing oh so hard about being so successful at homeschooling all your kids. Makes me wonder what kind of gaps they have in their education.

If people let teachers raise their children, then they're bad, lazy parents. Children spend more time at home than school, after all. Teachers aren't supposed to be babysitters, merely educators.

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In this day and age, employers are looking to hire "drop outs".

From my own experience, my younger brother dropped out of school in Grade 9. He is now 19, all of his friends are graduated, and he is kicking himself in the a** for not finishing school as he can not get a "good" steady job to support himself.

I hardly graduated, but I got my self together and managed to do it by taking some courses as "Learn at Home" courses and working hard. I wouldn't be where I am today if I didn't graduate High School, I may not have a University education as of now, but High School is something that really matters.
Please, for your own future, put your nose to the grindstone and graduate whether it is homeschooling or not.

ETD: The "homeschooling" I did was more so, go see a teacher in the program once a day or a few times a week, depending on the help you needed, do your work on the computer, the teachers had a system set up that you could "chat" with them and also send in your work. It was quite neat, "Learn @ Home". But I was doing this on the side to get my extra credits while STILL going to school every day.

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