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post #1 of 83 Old 08-23-2013, 02:21 PM Thread Starter
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Dumb question about horse disposal

I have two 21 year old grade paint geldings that have been together since they were 2 years old; never separated. I want to get rid of them (free) but I think I ask too much: 1. They never be separated; 2. They not be abused, or re-sold to someone who would abuse them, or slaughtered for cash.

I've packed elk on them and ridden them some, mostly when they were young, but now they just sit around, UN-used, UN-appreciated, no mental or physical stimulation, burning hay. I owe them better but that's not going to happen. The best I can do is find a better home.

Rather than interview (and possibly be lied to by) a ton of individuals, I was (naively?) hoping there was a "people" who were generally known for treating horses well. I researched the Amish and found they are like all other human beings; some good, some not so good. I assume my question is dumb because I'm sure that assessment holds for all groups of people. Nevertheless, I thought I'd ask you folks.

Any particular tribe, religion, group, non-profit, corporation, etc. that might like to have them?

Okay, wail away . . .
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post #2 of 83 Old 08-23-2013, 02:29 PM
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You can't put stipulations on horses you're giving away/selling. Once they're out of your hands they belong to the people who took them, and they can legally do with them as they wish.

No, I don't know of any group of people who are more likely to do as you wish than any other. If you can afford to keep them, do it. If you can't, you have to resign yourself to the fact that they may wind up somewhere you never intended.

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In a word: NO

Are you boarding them or for some other reason unable to keep them and give them the retirement they've earned? If you cannot keep them any longer, then I would have them humanely euthanized. My personal feelings (and you are not required to agree) is that if I have owned an animal since it was a baby (2 years old), then I OWE that animal either a good retirement or to be humanely put to sleep, not foisted off on someone else who may or may not make the right decisions for them.
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Asking that horses not be separated could mean you will wait a long time to get them rehomed. To ensure they aren't rushed off to slaughter you need to price them higher than slaughter value. You may be able to find that by googling slaughter prices for horses. Most organizations are offered horses as are private individuals and only so many can be taken altho with extensive research you may find someone or a group who will take them. What province or state are they in?
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They are in Colorado now (from the Duck Valley Indian Reservation, Nevada, originally). I'd haul to another state if my conditions could be met, but I'm being told here the honest opinions that I thought I'd be told. Shrug.

I have thought about shooting them but then again, I never figured 21 was retirement age. I've got a friend who's horse is 31 and, while he doesn't do much with her, she's not in pain and they still enjoy each others company.

I'll check slaughter prices but I doubt anyone would pay for a simple horse these days. I thought the market was a glut. Guess I need to do some research.

They've got clean water, three-sided shelter, they get Natural Balance trim every three months, see the doc once each spring, and I buy good alfalfa for them; but they are on about an acre of dirt doing nothing all day and night, looking forward to chow and that's about it. I can afford to keep that up, but it's not much of a life.
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Why aren't you using them? Just curious.

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Why aren't you using them? Just curious.
I don't know. I'd probably have to get therapy to answer that question.
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Honestly, most horses don't care if they're being used for work so if your main concern is that they're not being used to their 'potential', I wouldn't worry overmuch about it.

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I agree with the above poster - you've had them since two. They've spent their entire live serving you, working for you, doing exactly what you want them to. I think they deserve more than to be given off to someone who can do whatever they want to with them - then being 'disposed of.' The short answer is no, there's not a group that is known for taking in horses. If you're 'done with them' and want them gone I would agree that it's better to euthanize then than give them away.
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They not be abused, or re-sold to someone who would abuse them, or slaughtered for cash.

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I'll check slaughter prices but I doubt anyone would pay for a simple horse these days. I thought the market was a glut. Guess I need to do some research.
I'm really confused. You won't allow anyone else to send them to slaughter "for money", but it's okay if you do? I have no issues with horse slaughter but it makes zero sense what you have said. You're contradicting yourself.

Please don't just shoot them. Shooting should only be used if you are in a remote area a vet cannot get to and/or the horse needs to be put down immediately before a vet can get there. Yes, when shooting is done right, it will cause no pain to the animal. But it's much less risky to have the horse humanely euthanized by a reputable vet.

Plus, there are often laws you can't get around with disposing of the animal yourself, if you shoot it yourself.

If you are so concerned about the horse's well being and future: 1) Keep them 2) euthanize them. Pick!!

You cannot possibly believe that you have any control over the horse if you sell them to someone else. Once they are sold, they are no longer yours and the new owner can do whatever they wish.

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