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        08-09-2013, 12:04 AM
      #21
    Yearling
    Kicking even during play is unacceptable and should always be reprimanded IMO! Would you let a 2 yr old child hit you because they are playing? No, we would teach them that its not acceptable behavior. Just like kicking is not an acceptable behavior from a horse. If you watch a herd, a young horse will not kick out at the lead mare even in play. And if it does the lead mare will reprimand it. It might not be "disrespect" now but if allowed to continue will turn into disrespect and is just an accident waiting to happen. 1000+ lbs versus my 160lbs?? I don't wanna find out who's going to win so I personally choose to avoid that kind of situation with preventative measures.
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        08-09-2013, 12:14 AM
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    If he starts walking in front of you in the pasture when at liberty, he's being rude. You need to get his feet moving - get a driving whip and start chasing him away from you. I also hiss like a cat, it tends to get through to them that you're actually angry and not just playing (especially helpful if the horse has been "played" with before and has no respect because of so-called "bonding" games). If he kicks out at you, lay that whip across his back legs hard! If he at any time attempts to charge you do NOT take a step back, move into him and smack him with the whip across the front legs or chest. It's really important that this behaviour is nipped in the bud.

    My horse used to kick out at the wall sometimes in the stable when I was leaving it and I'd growl at him and give him a sharp smack on the shoulder, but he wouldn't quit. One day he cow-kicked me once when I was doing up the belly straps on his rug. I kicked him back, in the ribs, with the flat of my shoe. He never lifted a hoof again.
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        08-09-2013, 12:34 AM
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    ... If you watch a herd, a young horse will not kick out at the lead mare even in play. And if it does the lead mare will reprimand it....Posted via Mobile Device
    But front hooves are a-ok.

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        08-09-2013, 12:38 AM
      #24
    Yearling
    Woman Kicked in the Face by Horse [FUNNY] - YouTube

    I believe this is the video of the girl (I do not think this is funny).
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        08-09-2013, 12:47 AM
      #25
    Green Broke
    Doesn't matter if it was disrespectful or not, your horse needs to learn not to kick when you're around it.

    They're not dogs, you don't "play" with horses in the paddock. They are 5 - 10 times our weight, can outrun us, out manoeuvre us and a stray hoof can kill us.

    We teach them manners when we handle them, but when they're in the paddock it's their time. They are part of the herd and their attention isn't going to be just on you. If you want to "play" with your horse teach them liberty exercises starting with a rope or roundyard. One of the first things you'll probably teach them is never turn their back to you.
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        08-09-2013, 12:57 AM
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    Originally Posted by MsLady    
    Woman Kicked in the Face by Horse [FUNNY] - YouTube

    I believe this is the video of the girl (I do not think this is funny).
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    Northern I Believe this is the video you are talking about?

    This is a very good example of someone training a dominant horse with treats and getting herself kicked in the head for her own stupidity. That horse was ticked off the entire time and if someone interprets that as 'play' then they are sorely deluded to why and how horses do the things they do. These kind of antics are what turn good horses into spoiled brats.
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        08-09-2013, 12:58 AM
      #27
    Foal
    I'm not trying to "play" with him, I realize that he is a huge animal that I need to take caution with. And I agree, regardless if it is play or not I do not want him kicking at me.
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        08-09-2013, 01:28 AM
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    More clueless "training":
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        08-09-2013, 01:31 AM
      #29
    Yearling
    My yearling filly was becoming extremely food aggressive, she was running us over trying to get to the feed bucket. This is not acceptable. We were doing what we thought was right, shooing her away, carrying a rope with us and reprimanding her. The other day at feeing time she was trying to run me over again, I forgot my rope and was trying to shoo her away, she turned to the side of me and I thought she was going to her feeding spot but instead she bucked up and kicked out with both feet. Luckily only one hoof hit me, but it hit me square in the stomach. It landed me in the ER for 4 hours. And she is in "jail" at my uncles, (he is a professional trainer), DH and I know our limitations. She should have gone 2 weeks ago but we got lazy.
    Even if your guy was "playing" you should be more dominate in the herd. Always stay safe, believe me a yearlings kick in the stomach really hurts!!
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        08-09-2013, 05:45 AM
      #30
    Green Broke
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    Originally Posted by Squirrelle    
    The horse and I were in the middle of an open pasture, just us. I had given him a carrot and was talking to him and petting him a little bit. Then he started walking away so I was walking along beside him on my way back into the house. Then he started walking a bit faster and got ahead of me and kicked out. His body language did not seem aggressive or startled which is why I think he might have been trying to play.
    From this description, here is my guess. He decided to leave you. You followed in the same direction to leave the pasture. He felt you were pressuring him to move and didn't like it. He kicked out as a warning for you to back off. I see it happen a lot in our gelding pasture. One gets pesty and follows the others. He'll nip at them if they don't move. Most of the time the others do move but occasionally they kick out to say "knock it off".

    It shouldn't matter if he is being playful or being snotty. Kicking at a human is intolerable. You should chase him off but keep yourself out of kicking range.
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