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    01-28-2014, 12:30 PM
  #11
Trained
^A trainer that pushes you is the best! Keep us updated (:
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    01-31-2014, 04:56 PM
  #12
Yearling
Ok .. more homework for this weekend -- my off-week

Intro to sitting the trot .... anyone got any good videos that tell me when and how to move my hips?
     
    01-31-2014, 06:09 PM
  #13
Weanling
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Originally Posted by jmike    
ok .. more homework for this weekend -- my off-week

Intro to sitting the trot .... anyone got any good videos that tell me when and how to move my hips?
I found that the best thing I could do with the sit trot was just do it A LOT.

The key for me anyway was to get used to rhythm of the horse, and have my hips get in sync w/ it so I wasn't bouncing all over the place. I had to mentally split my body into threes.. 1) top part (shoulders/chest/head) stayed straight & tall w/ good posture, 2) hips/seat in tune w/ horse jiggling w/ him like a sack of potatoes & absorbing the bounce (while maintaining #1! Hard!) and 3) legs stretched down and not gripping too much so that the weight went down to my heels.

I made some serious strides, sometimes now I'm even more comfy in the sit trot. But you know.. I still have years of fine tuning ahead of me :) - oh ... if you have good balance, stirrup-less trotting helped me find the horses rhythm real fast.. you kind of can't avoid it as it forces all your weight down! But that might not be good for lesson #4....


Disclaimer: not an expert or trainer just my thoughts!
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    01-31-2014, 06:28 PM
  #14
Showing
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Originally Posted by jmike    
ok .. more homework for this weekend -- my off-week

Intro to sitting the trot .... anyone got any good videos that tell me when and how to move my hips?
Start with the SLOWEST trot ever. Like barely trotting. Sit, and keep your legs 'there' so you can use them, and think that your butt/seat is a sack of sand, and each little grain is sinking down. It helps to make sure you aren't leaning too far forward.

Try and keep hands nice and still, shoulders and elbows loose.
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    01-31-2014, 11:08 PM
  #15
Yearling
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Originally Posted by Gossalyn    
I found that the best thing I could do with the sit trot was just do it A LOT.

The key for me anyway was to get used to rhythm of the horse, and have my hips get in sync w/ it so I wasn't bouncing all over the place. I had to mentally split my body into threes.. 1) top part (shoulders/chest/head) stayed straight & tall w/ good posture, 2) hips/seat in tune w/ horse jiggling w/ him like a sack of potatoes & absorbing the bounce (while maintaining #1! Hard!) and 3) legs stretched down and not gripping too much so that the weight went down to my heels.

I made some serious strides, sometimes now I'm even more comfy in the sit trot. But you know.. I still have years of fine tuning ahead of me :) - oh ... if you have good balance, stirrup-less trotting helped me find the horses rhythm real fast.. you kind of can't avoid it as it forces all your weight down! But that might not be good for lesson #4....


Disclaimer: not an expert or trainer just my thoughts!
i have done the stirrup-less trotting a few time so I could figure out the right way to turn my spurs when she tries to run sideways into the bushes --

Not easy at all --- especially when she is doing the "mad trot" because it feels like she is trying to pound me to death

I like the idea though, I think it would be a nice balance crash course
     
    01-31-2014, 11:17 PM
  #16
Yearling
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Originally Posted by Skyseternalangel    
Start with the SLOWEST trot ever. Like barely trotting. Sit, and keep your legs 'there' so you can use them, and think that your butt/seat is a sack of sand, and each little grain is sinking down. It helps to make sure you aren't leaning too far forward.

Try and keep hands nice and still, shoulders and elbows loose.
i think the hardest part for me would be figuring out the mechanics of it

When lead foot comes up, what do my hips do?
When the lead foot goes down, what to my hips do?

Do my hips do the same thing in reference to the .. trailing(?) foot

If I am right about the rhythm and how I feel that rhythm --- then the lead foot rises, I will feel the horse rise slightly, and when it falls, I should feel the horse fall slightly --- same with the trailing foot but less pronounced

Kind of a UP-DOWN/up-down/UP-DOWN/up-down with the DOWN/up nearly coinciding

... am I wrong on that thought?
     
    02-01-2014, 12:18 AM
  #17
Showing
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Originally Posted by jmike    
i think the hardest part for me would be figuring out the mechanics of it

When lead foot comes up, what do my hips do?
When the lead foot goes down, what to my hips do?

Do my hips do the same thing in reference to the .. trailing(?) foot

If I am right about the rhythm and how I feel that rhythm --- then the lead foot rises, I will feel the horse rise slightly, and when it falls, I should feel the horse fall slightly --- same with the trailing foot but less pronounced

Kind of a UP-DOWN/up-down/UP-DOWN/up-down with the DOWN/up nearly coinciding

... am I wrong on that thought?
You're over thinking this, a lot... it's GREAT to know where the feet 'are' so that you can influence the gaits accordingly. However, when sitting the trot, LESS is more. If you start trying to control your seat bones to a T... you'll likely work against the horse and not get it.

But to answer your question, your seat bone will rise, more forward, sink down, and come back to starting position. It will happen quite quickly so it'll only feel like a diagonal back and fourth motion.. but there is a slight rise and fall just as the horse's trotting pairs do.

YOUR hips mimic those of the horse...at all times.

So slow slow slow trot.. barely a jog... stretch legs down, pretend you're flexible and pliable like jelly instead of stiff as a board.
     
    02-01-2014, 12:38 AM
  #18
Yearling
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Originally Posted by Skyseternalangel    
You're over thinking this, a lot... it's GREAT to know where the feet 'are' so that you can influence the gaits accordingly. However, when sitting the trot, LESS is more. If you start trying to control your seat bones to a T... you'll likely work against the horse and not get it.
it is what works for me and has always worked for me, from riding a bike, to high jump, to swimming and everything in between

I am a visual learner, and if I can't visualize the process - it just won't click for me

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Originally Posted by Skyseternalangel    
But to answer your question, your seat bone will rise, more forward, sink down, and come back to starting position. It will happen quite quickly so it'll only feel like a diagonal back and fourth motion.. but there is a slight rise and fall just as the horse's trotting pairs do.

YOUR hips mimic those of the horse...at all times.

So slow slow slow trot.. barely a jog... stretch legs down, pretend you're flexible and pliable like jelly instead of stiff as a board.

Thanks -- sounds a lot like tilting my pelvis -- I think I got it -- thanks -- will try this tomorrow and let you know how it goes ... if it's not raining
     
    02-03-2014, 01:02 PM
  #19
Yearling
Rained on Sunday -- didn't get a chance to do any riding
     
    02-04-2014, 08:35 AM
  #20
Weanling
Just noticed you were in MS. Howdy neighbor. It rained all day Sunday here too.

LOL keep posting your exercises. I'll do them at home when the weather permits.

Have fun and good luck.
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