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        08-07-2013, 08:13 AM
      #21
    Weanling
    All of you are Nailing it!! Everyone is right on!!! There is not much else that needs to be said. OP I hope you are getting what is being said here. Like I said in my first post, you need to learn about horse behavior/horse psychology. Understand your horse is not a dog, a cat, a cow, a pig or a person. It thinks and reasons differently then all of these. Until you can understand and change your thinking you will struggle with horses. Good luck, read study learn.
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        08-07-2013, 12:38 PM
      #22
    Foal
    I would suggest using the Montey Roberts join up technique I'm using it with my mare she's also ornery( when she's in heat) and it helps with showing your the leader.
         
        08-07-2013, 07:51 PM
      #23
    Showing
    When you lead her, and I emphasize giving her 4' of lead, your are focused ahead. Suddenly flap your elbow up (think chicken dance) as you walk. Do not do it so there is rhythm but keep it random. If she moves close she'll get a clip in the jaw. It will not make her headshy. Just keep walking toward your mark up ahead. Continue with the elbow flap. Once she's hit your elbow she's not in a hurry to repeat it. She's not "poor baby". She just got her comeuppance. If you hold the lead close to her halter, you set yourself up to get hit with her shoulder. It also forces her to walk with her neck bent toward you and she's invariably carrying the weight of your arm. With four feet of lead, she can walk her own path with a straight neck and only the weight of her head and not your arm. When you get this down pat, there will be parallel tracks behind you, hers and yours.
         
        08-07-2013, 09:27 PM
      #24
    Green Broke
    This is the horse that in another thread you want to do everything with it but what a gaited horse is bred for. Maybe you need to ride it like it was trained and not change it into something it is not.
         
        08-07-2013, 11:05 PM
      #25
    Foal
    I don't understand why some people feel the need to post such hateful replies. This post was made under the "new to horses" section and I openly admitted I know nothing about horses and am asking for help. I hope many of you are a little nicer when people ask you for advice in real life. Just sayin.
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        08-07-2013, 11:16 PM
      #26
    Showing
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Kaylastacy12    
    I don't understand why some people feel the need to post such hateful replies. This post was made under the "new to horses" section and I openly admitted I know nothing about horses and am asking for help. I hope many of you are a little nicer when people ask you for advice in real life. Just sayin.
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    I hope you didn't take my post as hateful. It's very easy for new horse lovers to think of a horse like a dog or human, but they have completely different ways of communicating.
         
        08-08-2013, 09:15 AM
      #27
    Green Broke
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Kaylastacy12    
    I don't understand why some people feel the need to post such hateful replies. This post was made under the "new to horses" section and I openly admitted I know nothing about horses and am asking for help. I hope many of you are a little nicer when people ask you for advice in real life. Just sayin.
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    Because with proper information people may have a better idea why your horses personality has changed. It wasn't hateful it was the truth and people need to be aware of what you are doing with this horse that might contribute to the personality change.
         
        08-08-2013, 10:03 AM
      #28
    Super Moderator
    I'm sorry you're finding some of the replies a little too blunt
    On the whole people don't mean to be rude or unkind, often its just their way of saying things - the thought behind it is sound just maybe not very tactfully put
    People that have been around horses for years know only too well how fast a horse like yours can go from being a 'bit of a pain' to being downright dangerous and that's why they're trying to really push how important it is to nip it in the bud now
    You've had lots of good advice that I'm sure you can work with
    I wouldn't waste your money on Mare Magic or any of that stuff, this behavior is just her calling the shots on when she should work or not and nothing to do with hormones.
    Do try to have her out of that field every day if you can, even if you aren't going to ride her she needs to do that and spend time with you just being handled so she doesn't just associate being caught with being ridden
    When you do ride her be sure that you aren't pushing her beyond her fitness limits as that will make her sore and stiff and she will then connect that discomfort to you and being caught
         
        08-08-2013, 11:11 AM
      #29
    Weanling
    Since she is new to you, it sounds like her changes in personality are simply her way of asking what is correct and what you expect from her. This is why you need to be firm and consistent ALL THE TIME. Just like your fence tells her where her physical boundaries are, your job is to tell her where her mental/behavioral boundaries are. When she is unsure of how to behave, she will try something out to judge your reaction. Your reaction is what tells her (a) it must be ok to do because my human (herd leader) didn't correct me; (b) that wasn't quite the right thing to do but my human showed me how to nail it; (c) I did the right thing, and I know it because my human praised me.

    Set your horse up for success by seeing every misbehavior as her way of saying, "I'm not sure... what do you think about this?" Your response will be a definite "No!" Or "you're close, let me show you what I was really asking for." Or "Yes! Good job!!"

    THIS is the secret to showing your horse how much you really truly lover her. You will be rewarded by a lifetime of love and devotion in return. There will still be some difficult days, but with this communication foundation well-practiced, you will succeed in ways your friends may never be able to accomplish with their horses. Then you can share this secret with them and sit back and enjoy their blossoming journey
         
        08-08-2013, 11:41 AM
      #30
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    Originally Posted by Kaylastacy12    
    I openly admitted I know nothing about horses and am asking for help.
    OP...I would strongly encourage you to seek advice and instruction from an experienced horseman/woman and one familiar with Pasos if you can.
    Your problems aren't going to stop with working with this mare on the ground. Instruction under saddle would greatly benefit you and your horse. Riding isn't just about getting on and having the horse take you someplace. It's about learning balance, how to properly cue, how to react in an emergency, etc. You need to learn to be a confident handler/rider. Horses respond to that.
    If you have no clue what you are doing, you will be creating a very frustrated horse and will likely end up with more problems than you have now.
    All the advice I have seen here has been given with the intent of saving you grief...and for the benefit of the horse also. Lots of years of experience here and most of us have been through it.
    Trust me on this...it's much more pleasant to learn from experienced instruction if at all possible than to wing it and learn the hard way.
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