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post #11 of 18 Old 10-17-2013, 07:43 PM
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If he stops after a few strides and you give cues to keep going and he ignores them, then what? Nothing? You give up and let him walk? If so, you just taught this horse that ignoring your cues gets him out of work, he isn't stupid. Get someone to help you, like a good riding instructor, to show you how to over and under him, because that's what he needs.
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post #12 of 18 Old 10-17-2013, 08:45 PM
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what do you mean look to your self for leadership, what should i do? When he stops i tell him to keep going by using pressure and clicking and kissing but nothing
what I meant is do not look to him having some kind of issue with cantering under saddle, since he will do this elsewhere. it's not HIS problem, it's yours. I don't mean to sound harsh. only, that when you look to yourself for the answer, you will be ready to learn how to change this.

clucking and kissing are obviously not enough. you may need to smack him one, with a crop/whip or the long end of the rein. get him to leap forward, then let him just coast along a bit. dont' stop him as soon as he leaps forward, but don't drive him non-stop either. put your leg on him and kiss, then one more leg, stronger, then wallop him! and be ready for him to jump forward, so don';t jab him in the mouth or haul him back when he does, but let him coast forward and tell him he's a good boy (he went forward!)

fundamentally, the horse (who is a gorgeous animal and looks capable of handing a long canter with ease), does not think you are capable of making him move when he thinks otherwise. This is what the fundamentals of leadership are; getting you horse to move when you say so.

Did I miss where you said you had anyone helping you? with some instruction?
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post #13 of 18 Old 10-17-2013, 09:33 PM
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While you may think because you have been riding a couple of months you have a secure, good seat and hands? I would imagine if you posted video we could see your mechanics are not as good as you think.

Few people are excellent riders after 2 months or so. Some no matter how many decades they have ridden? Still have a lousy seat and horrible hands.

At the lope your hands may not be steady and thus bumping him more, you may be flopping your legs, you may be bouncing in saddle? And since the lope has a different movement to horse, in terms of him and you, these little things can build up to major aggravation too. And cause horse to halt.

Video would help here.

And is he exhibiting any signs of ignoring you when handling him from the ground.

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post #14 of 18 Old 10-17-2013, 11:23 PM
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If he can canter in the field then he can canter in a boring arena. I do not suspect health problems, just laziness. Sounds like he has been getting away with it too.

Get after him. Use a riding crop as an aid if need be. If you are still having difficulties, I would recommend getting an instructor involved.
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post #15 of 18 Old 10-17-2013, 11:39 PM
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My gelding is like this, and it's PURE laziness! My trainer has yelled(or chanted) "Leg, leg, leg! More leg!" Whenever she sees him start to slow. Squeeze with your calfs, keep him going, if he ignores that, squeeze, kick, cluck (or smooch), squeeze, kick, cluck. DO NOT let him decide when enough is enough. That is your decision as you are in charge. He needs to keep a consistent speed until you halt him.
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post #16 of 18 Old 10-18-2013, 12:04 AM
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After reading horselovinguy's reply(Briefly)' maybe get him using his back end more, you can do this by doing turns on the hindquarters and backing/backing in a circle or lounging in very small circles (Maybe let you friends do that at first, it can be a bit scary at first having the horse running right next to you).
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post #17 of 18 Old 10-18-2013, 03:13 PM
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You need to get good at anticipating and reading what the horse is going to do before he does it, and correct it then. This is a skill that takes time to really develop, but you said after ten strides he stops. So at stride eight or nine, cue him up. Keep his feet moving and do something other than just riding in a circle to keep his mind in it.
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i rode him today and he was great, we did the out door pen and he went around the corners just finee and he did go for a longer period of time then usual. I did notice a few things though...i was leaning back while loping which lead to my hands being way up which could of put pressure on him and he was just doing what i accidentally told him to do which is stop. Another thing is that i did notice i am a little more bouncy than i would like so that would also probably make him stop ( if i was off balance) so im 99% sure its me and not him........now i just gotta learn to lope correctly.. i made a new thread about this

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