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post #1 of 17 Old 06-18-2013, 09:15 AM Thread Starter
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Horse not as seller said

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I am after some advice please! I have recently purchased our first family pony we are quite novicy my teenage daugter been riding around 3 years in a school (and was quite confident) myself started back riding again after many years I suppose you would class me as a beginner. We have our pony at my friends yard who is very very experienced and so are the other girls at the yard so I have lots of support. The problem I have is when we went to the riding school to view the pony she was a perfect family cob, ploddy, easy to handle very calm etc. owner and school instructor assured me she is always like this and would be perfect for us have lessons on, after a while being spent with her I purchased her (now I know this was probably the wrong decision) The first couple of days she was bolshy on the ground didnt like being tacked up i put this down to new environment etc. Then she seemed to come round a bit but was only easy to handle in the yard when other horses were with her. My daughter has ridden her a few times (only had her 5 weeks) each time shes getting progressivly worse now started to rear, back up doesnt want to go forward difficult to mount the list goes on. Ive contacted prev owners she said she never behaved like that with her she then said to me sounds like your daughter needs lessons (my argument is I told her our riding abilities she said shes suitable for novices). Now when I go to see her she turns her back to me doesnt come to me now (when we first got her she would always come and greet me at the gate). My friends thinks shes misbehaving and also said shes very green not what i was told at all from seler.
Sorry this thread is so long just wondered what your views are on this, i plan to have a professional instructor come to our yard and give us lessons but now Im afraid to put dauhter on her. I dont want to give up on her yet but im finding it disheartening every time we see her.
Horse is 7 years old.

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post #2 of 17 Old 06-18-2013, 09:56 AM
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When I was buying my daughter's horse, we physically looked at 13, rode them all, some a few times, and 3 of them we brought home for a 2-3 week lease to see what they were like in a new place. Then when we settled on one, I had the vet check done. I had heard horror stories just like yours, of the horses being drugged, or kept underfed so they were sluggish. As soon as they got weight they felt a little too good.

One of the horses we tried was ridable for 3 days, then she came up so lame that she could hardly walk...drugged.

The other horse that we tried was gorgeous, huge and marketed as a super mellow kids/husband's horse. When he was in the roundpen, my 10 year old daughter put a little pressure on him to change directions, and he jumped out of the 6 foot roundpen!

First question for you: What is your horse eating? Sometimes a change of diet can be partially responsible for a major attitude change. More than likely though, you bought a horse that was "under the influence" of something. I'm really sorry you got fooled.

Good for you for hiring an instructor. It's a hard decision, but don't be afraid to decide this isn't right for you either, especially since it's a horse for your daughter.
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post #3 of 17 Old 06-18-2013, 09:57 AM
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It seems that the horse is taking advantage of any lack of discipline or experience you/her rider are unknowingly displaying when working with her. Any horse can change behaviorally to the worst, if not treated properly, and by that I don't mean harsh discipline - even a little less timing or focus than needed can make a huge difference. And thus, no seller can give a 100% guarantee that the horse will always stay the same. For example, my own gelding - I have worked enough with him so that he respects me, has good ground manners, is always willing to see me...but, given the opportunity and a novice, he becomes a barging, nipping, dominating monster in a matter of minutes.

Your mare might be suitable for novices riding-wise - but I suggest that both of you get lessons from a good trainer in groundwork.

I have come a long way, to surrender my shadow to the shadow of my horse.
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post #4 of 17 Old 06-18-2013, 10:57 AM
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Double check how the tack fits. Assuming it does, then the problem is probably how you handle the horse. Ask your experienced friend to watch you interact with the horse and give suggestions. If need be, hire someone to watch you interact and give suggestions. Here are two threads worth reading if you haven't read them yet:

Understanding the Importance of Manners

Every rider IS a trainer -- every time you interact with a horse

"Make the right thing easy and the wrong thing...well, ignore it mostly."
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post #5 of 17 Old 06-18-2013, 11:21 AM
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horses are living things with minds of their own. Diet change could have done it, a combination of the horse being uncomfortable in a new environment and being worked by novices, any number of things.

My BO purchased a horse for trail that was very quiet when she saw him at the barn, but for the first month in his new home he was a basket case, spooky, freaking out for no reason, crow hopping under saddle. after the first 30 days he was back to his quiet self and never had a problem since.

I also bought a gorgeous mare that the owner said had never bucked. she rode good at the owners place. I got her back, gave her a week to settle in and the first ride on her she had a complete melt down and threw me off. It was the first and last time that ever happened, after that day she was good as gold, I had her for two years.

Moral of the story, look at yourself first, because with horses, 90% of problems are the fault of the handler.
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My horse was perfect when I looked at him at the sellers, then turned into a demon spawn when I got him home. He ran circles around me, was bossy, pushy and belligerent. I refused to give up because I KNEW the horse I bought was in there somewhere. Turned out it was all my fault. Got a trainer involved and got respect on the ground. He's perfect now. After we cracked down on that behavior, never had to do it again and he's the best horse I could have ever asked for.

Don't give up. You're doing the right thing getting a professional involved. It probably won't take much.
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post #7 of 17 Old 06-18-2013, 11:36 AM
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^^^I wish more people took this approach.
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Thank you all for your replies. Yes I do think the majority of the problem is due to our lack of experience that's why I'm not giving up on her YET! I'm pleased with your replies as you've given me the inspiration to do it I know a lot of work is involved and I'm hoping with the help of a trainer and my friends she will come good. Once again thanks x
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Sometimes sellers are dishonest, but many times, particularly with ponies, this happens with a new owner. I've been on the other end of this. I outgrew my pony, who rode wonderfully for me, and the people that bought him called me a month later claiming that he threw their daughter and that now they couldn't even catch him. I never misrepresented him, he just respected me and not them. I have a pony mare now that is an angel as long as she can see me, but if I leave and she doesn't respect the person handling her, that person has a miserable time. Sometimes it's even hard for someone to feed for for me because she turns into a pushy nightmare without me around. The good news is that you can learn to handle this pony and get back the creature you tested out and purchased. It's a matter of getting her to respect you, starting on the ground. A good trainer will be able to help you, and you can actually see improvement pretty quickly. My pony mare no longer tortures my husband when I'm out of town, and we've only worked on it a little bit. :)
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post #10 of 17 Old 06-18-2013, 02:00 PM
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Is the trainer/coach you're using now the same one that you bought the horse from? Sorry, I just got a little lost in your post.

"Just because I don't do things your way, doesn't mean I don't have a clue"
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