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post #21 of 33 Old 07-04-2013, 04:51 PM Thread Starter
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Compared to the first time I rode her she is doing great, but she has so may vices and I feel like I can't fix them all.
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post #22 of 33 Old 07-04-2013, 05:01 PM
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He did he took her in tight circles and worked her in the canter again until she did it on the first cue with no problem. She did not act out after he got after her. If I get after he she wont act out either. But I have to get after her with what feels every ride.
That's how some green horses are, that's what makes them green. They need guidance,corrections & patience.
Tight circles can be tough for greenies.
There's no fault in admitting a certain horse is not the right one.
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post #23 of 33 Old 07-04-2013, 05:21 PM Thread Starter
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I know and I havent wanted to admit it, but I think I finally am ready to. I just don't want to get hurt, I would rather be safe on a bombproof horse then unsafe on a green mare. I love her to death but I just don't think it's going to work. Even with training I think I would still have that gut worry while I'm riding.
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post #24 of 33 Old 07-04-2013, 07:11 PM
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I am in the same boat as you are, I feel maybe I jumped into buying Woodstock to fast at first because he was more my b.fs pick ( he has horses all his life and said that this horses temperament is one in a million ) and I agree it is but I wanted a horse that can help me learn because I was confident getting on Woodstock at first until I saw signs of him not wanting to listen to me and go forward with me and constantly my trainer would push me not to be scared but I was not comfortable because he would start acting out and doing what he wanted ,because he did not want to be in the arena working and what not. So what I did was because I started loosing my confidence of being on my own horse after the last time he acted out I started training on a more forward easy older horse and it was great because I learned all I had to learn to ride properly and then I would get on my own horse and keep going and going I got to the point where I felt I had no bond with this horse and I lost faith. But before I knew it when I spent time with this horse we just got closer and closer and believe me I fell once and I am still veryyy nervousee to get on this horse. But the point of this is somedays will be tougher than others and you will feel like there is nothing between you guys just hang in there and give this horse a chance. Get a trainer that makes you comfortable and does not push you to do things you are not comfortable with or get a friend that will dedicate time to ride with you just don't give up. She will come around.
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post #25 of 33 Old 07-06-2013, 09:51 AM
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I'm sorry to hear that it didn't work out but I think it's great that you're willing to admit that you're in over your head.

I know a lot of people who let things go way to far before admitting they might need some help...
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post #26 of 33 Old 07-06-2013, 12:20 PM
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If you continue to ride her, keep to the walk and get her moving her hindquarters laterally, first to one side then the other. She may be having balance issues and this can often bring on bucking, especially at the canter.
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post #27 of 33 Old 07-06-2013, 01:03 PM
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Okay here is my take, and it may sound rude, but my opinions just come off as rude 99.9% of the time.

Green horses will commonly buck in the canter. My green 4 yr old started cantering fine one day, and the next he was a bucking disaster. Cue for canter? He's off on an uncontrollable bucking spree. Stop him and cue again? More bucking. It is NOT an easy fix, but it is possible. You NEED to get after her as soon as she let's out one buck. I go with tight, uncomfortable circles that change direction often. (Most usually at the trot).

I don't know how you ride, but I'm trying to think what would make her buck, being a green horse. With my green horse, if the reins are tight when cantering, he bucks since he is confused. You could be putting a "wall" in front of her, and she could be getting mixed signals as what to do.
Another thing is, if you get off of her after she bucks, or stop cantering her for the rest of the ride, she's learning. She's learning if she bucks, she gets rest, when it needs to be the complete opposite.
One other thing she could be bucking for is that it is an old habit. She probably knows you are scared of her, and bucking gets her a break. If you have a really solid seated friend that knows how to ride horses that buck, ask him/her to ride her one really good time. I fixed a bucking horse this way. My neighbors horse would through bucks a lot, and being the stupid person I am, I would get on him just to ride through the bucks and then discipline him, just so he knows he won't win with everyone. Now, a little girl rides him around, and he is perfect for her. Some horses need to be put in their place by a very experienced rider that can stay on top, and ride it out.

If I was in your position I would start asking myself questions. Am I the cause of her bucking? Is she mentally ready for cantering? Is she uncomfortable in any way? Will I be able to get through this? Do I feel safe, to a degree, to keep riding her?
Personally, if I was you, despite my disliking of giving up on horses, get rid of her and get a good beginner horse. You are in over your head if you feel you can't fix the problem, and if you feel in danger. Confidence will get you farthest with a bucker, and if you aren't confident that there is a light at the end of the tunnel, you don't have the horse for you. This horse could be fixed, but I don't believe with a beginner rider.

But just a tip of advice, you will never avoid falling off horses. Even the best of the best fall. If you end up getting rid of every horse that makes you fall off, then you probably won't have horses for all that long. I have fallen off almost every single horse I have ridden. It is something you really can't avoid.

Good luck with the mare.
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post #28 of 33 Old 07-07-2013, 10:23 PM
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I got my first horse in May. She is amazing and lovely, but we just do not work well together. We butt heads and I feel she is too much horse for me. We were working on the canter today and she started cantering really really tight circles and then she bucked and I was hanging off the side and she was still going, and then I fell off and she nearly stepped on me. This was one of several times I've fallen off because of her acting out. She is pretty green, but has come a long way since I first got her.

I am on my last straw. I used to have confidence while riding and I could just have fun, but now I get on and I look confident but I'm absolutely terrified. A few days ago I got to ride a nice calm horse named Dolly, and I got on and I just cantered and had so much fun. I really enjoyed it and I just was able to ride with confidence and not worry so much. I was so happy, and it made me realize just how little I liked riding Misti.

I love her to death and we work well together on the ground, but in saddle we just are horrible together. I'm slowly getting more and more angry/stressed when I'm riding and it's affecting my riding, my horse, and everyone around me. I hate it. I really miss when I loved riding.

My dad gave me three options.

1.) Sell her and be done with horses.
2.) Sell her and get a different more experienced horse.
3.) Get a professional trainer to help.

I'm leaning towards 2 (or 1). I feel horrible that I'm almost ready to give up on her. My parents aren't horse people, so I'm coming here to get some advice. What do you think I should do? I'm absolutely torn. Share your opinions, stories, etc. I won't be offended, I just really need help. I've tried to work with her and gain her respect but it's just hard for me.
You remind me of me and my first horse. She wasn't quite as bad as your mare, but she was a lot of horse for a first horse and I had to learn how to ride very quickly.

Before considering selling, you should get a trainer to work with you and the horse to see where things are not working well. If you do that and you feel she is still to much horse, then selling her for an older more experienced horse might be a good option for you.
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post #29 of 33 Old 07-10-2013, 12:21 PM
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Hi! It sounds like she needs more training and maybe you should get a diffetent horse. Your young and don't want the fear of riding or getting hurt mess up you love for riding. I know that we want to feel dedicated to these wonderful creatures but she may do better with someone who can afford the training(because they are older and working) and you may fall in love with a horse that isn't having as many problems arise.good luck
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post #30 of 33 Old 07-10-2013, 12:33 PM
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At this point I think your #2 choice is a sound one.
Good luck to you!

You know, getting your confidence back and enjoying what you are doing is a pretty important part of horse ownership. Down the road a ways you might want to take on a green horse again.

If you ever find yourself in a fair fight, it's because your tactics suck. ~ Marine 1SGT J. Reifinger

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