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        07-11-2013, 09:20 AM
    Looking for advice

    Hello Everyone,

    I'm new to the forum and just getting back into the horse world.

    I'm actually looking for some advice regarding a horse rescue that I currently volunteer at. The rescue is very new and the operator/founder is very inexperienced and actually knows very little about horses in general and to top it off, about 90% of the members/helpers know even less. Its upsetting because these animals are relying solely on someone who doesn't know how to provide them with the right care at claims to be the rescue.

    The point of my post is not to put the rescue down but get some advice about dealing with a certain situation.

    We recently had one of the rescues castrated, he had been a stallion for a big chuck of his life and when he arrived and couldn't be anywhere near the other horses. Two weeks ago we got in a new gelding and after only meeting nose to nose and handful of times, she stuck them in the same paddock together. The new rescue is taking a beating. I go to see him everyday and every day he's got new bite marks, nasty gashes and now a swollen and bloody eye because he was bite on his face. They've been together for a week and it seems to be getting worse. I suggested separating them but I get the impression that she "doesn't have time to babysit" If it was my horse, I know I'd be flipping out and would get them apart asap.

    What do you guys think, should they be kept together and they'll work it out in time or can this potentially lead to an unwanted accident?

    I should also point out that the new rescue is blind in one eye to begin with.

    Please let me know what everyone would think is best, It's really hard to watch the poor guy being bullied. He seems so unhappy as well, trying to bite and not wanting to be around people, total opposite of what he was before being put with the other guy.

    Any insight would be great!

    Thank you!
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        07-11-2013, 09:40 AM
    Welcome. It does not sound like the rescue has the best intentions of the horses in mind, or else they would be more concerned. I would seperate them, since the stallion (even though gelded now) apparently still sees the gelding as a threat, as well as sensing the weakness in him due to the blindness. The situation may get better, but why risk it. And what happens if it gets worse? Is it fair for the new gelding to continue to be injured and possible have to be euthanized if something more serious happens? Just my opinion on it.
        07-11-2013, 10:09 AM
    Even through the gelding (was a stallion) is now gelded. It takes years for that stallion hormones to get out of the horses mind. He still thinks and breaths like a stallion. Putting a gelding or some other horse with him is asking for trouble in the long wrong. We don't like putting horses in with each other. They can badly hurt and some horses have no idea how to be around a new horse. I would separate both horses. The gelded stallion needs to be on his own for sometime to let his stallion mind move on. The gelding with the one eye should be on his own as well. He can't see out of that one eye so if a horse comes up to him he can't see them.
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        07-11-2013, 11:04 AM
    I don't know what to do. She wont listen to me. She thinks they'll "work it out" I'm tempted to lodge a complaint and hope something gets taking care of. However, that would mean that I have to disconnect from the rescue where the gelding is and I've grown very attached to him.

    You'd think one would need to pass a test/course to be able to operate a rescue
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        07-11-2013, 12:07 PM
    I've co-run a long-time rescue for 10 years now, we fluctuate between 16-20 horses at any one time. The biggest thing we've ever learned is "good fences make good neighbors". Almost all of our horses have their own turnouts, where they can groom and enjoy each others company over a fence - they are much happier and safer this way. Their paddocks are slightly smaller, but they are old or broken and can't move much anyway.

    If I were you, I'd be calling authorities, they wouldn't take the horses - they'd come in, insist on vet care for any of the injured of sick animals and do their best to educate the owners on the minimum needs of the horses. This includes food, clean water, and a safe shelter away from other dangerous horses. It sounds to me like a terrible situation for a stud-like horse to be owned by such inexperienced people. I truly hope this gets better - but I don't think you can change their minds yourself. Tell the authorities you're a volunteer there, but you realize the owners need more help, but you would prefer to stay anonymous - so no one holds it against you. But this sounds like a terrible situation, if they let wounds and aggression like that go unattended I can't imagine what else they're not doing for the animals.

    Please keep us posted.
        07-11-2013, 05:15 PM
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    Also, are they claiming to be a 'rescue' to scam people is what I would be thinking.

    Former stud will kill the other horse and to do this to a blind in one eye horse is animal abuse.

    Turn them in, and also to the state if they are getting donations and get out of there.

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