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my 6 yr horse keeps throwing her butt at me when being groomed, how do i stop this?

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    02-19-2014, 02:19 PM
When you are grooming her and she turns her butt... where are you grooming her? It is just happening when ever you get to the same place? Maybe she is ticklish or nervous of you grooming that area? What are you using to groom her with? Is it a hard curry comb or a brush or is she acting the same way with both? What are you doing when she does move her butt towards you? Is she tied really tight and cannot turn her head to see what you are doing? (I rode a horse that was well behaved but if you didnt let her see what was going on behind her she got extremely nervous and would get ready to bolt, if you let her have her head that she can see whats going on she was great)
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    02-20-2014, 11:16 PM
She does it no matter where I brush her or what I use. I do give her plenty of room to move her head so she can see behind her. When she does it I pull on her halter/ head toward me and try to calm her down and so I don't get kicked just in case she tries. I understand I need to have her checked by a vet but I still want to try to get some ideas on how to work with her on this problem so thanks for focusing on my original post.
    02-22-2014, 07:27 AM
How to deal with it, purely on a training level, I'd be using 'approach & retreat' tactics to get her comfortable with gradually more. Eg. Approach just as much as she's comfortable with, then a quick tad more before 'retreating' again. Get her comfortable with the new spot before asking a *little* more. Aim for doing little enough that you don't get any big reactions, but stay safe & keep it up if/when she does 'act up', retreating as soon as she stands still a second.
    02-22-2014, 10:21 AM
Instead of trying to calm her down when you pull on her head, do it again. Get tough with her. Let her think you're planning on killing her. By tough, I don't mean hit on her but make her move, backwards, hard for a good 20'. The next time she does it, as she won't have learned, back her up farther and make her hustle. By the third time she'll have figured it out. It's tiring so she'll be more inclined to stand still. Don't pet her or talk to her, just walk her back to where you started and proceed with what you were doing.
    02-22-2014, 10:57 AM
I'm also wondering /how/ you're grooming her. As in... what your facilities are like. This behavior would be easier to control and correct in cross ties than if she's just standing somewhere.
    02-22-2014, 12:02 PM
I like to stand at my new horse's heads with a long piece of pvc pipe and I use it to touch them all over, rub their legs with it, touch their bellies and just in general desensitize them to being touched without getting kicked. The pvc pipe is an extension of my arm and the horse learns to let me touch her anywhere I want before I start trying to really handle her. You can tape or tie a brush or curry on the pipe as well to get her used to being brushed and curried. If you're standing at her head and rubbing all over with the pipe, she'll get less and less nervous until you can groom her all over.

If she's not used to being groomed, she may not have had her feet picked up either. I use a lead rope to do that at first. I desensitize them to the rope on their legs by putting the rope around their leg and then gently giving a tug, not enough to lift the foot but just so they feel it, all up and down the leg. When they're ok with that, I tug enough to lift the foot off the ground just a tiny bit and set it right back down. I keep on with that and lift higher when they've accepted the lifting, until I can lift up and hold the leg in that position without any protest. Then I start doing it with my hand.

When I first read your post, I started to laugh because I also have a lovely pinto mare who will swing her butt at me, or back up all the way across the pasture to me, because as a baby I 'scritched' her butt with my long fingernails and she LOVES to have her butt 'scritched'. It's a bad habit I taught her, and I have to warn people now that she will hold you hostage in her stall for a scritch, so that they won't think she's being disrespectful. At first I thought, "OMG she's got another Patti!", but after reading through it doesn't really sound like that's what's going on.
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