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        12-25-2013, 08:52 PM
      #21
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    I agree with bsms; that she will do this when she is ready. You said the teacher's techniques work for every other child but yours. She is an individual. Some children learn faster than others. Any parent of multiple children knows how different they are from each other, even when they share 99% of the same DNA.

    I would very lightheartedly just blow it off and focus on how much fun you will have at walks and trots. Do nothing, absolutely nothing that brings up her "failure". Just tell her , if she persists in asking, that you have to think about it for awhile, but today you are just going to have fun with trotting.

    Eventually, either by boredom or by accident, she'll canter again and have a good experience. And believe me, she'll soon eclipse you in skill! They always do.
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        12-25-2013, 09:01 PM
      #22
    Yearling
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    Originally Posted by tinyliny    
    I agree with bsms; that she will do this when she is ready. You said the teacher's techniques work for every other child but yours. She is an individual. Some children learn faster than others. Any parent of multiple children knows how different they are from each other, even when they share 99% of the same DNA.

    I would very lightheartedly just blow it off and focus on how much fun you will have at walks and trots. Do nothing, absolutely nothing that brings up her "failure". Just tell her , if she persists in asking, that you have to think about it for awhile, but today you are just going to have fun with trotting.

    Eventually, either by boredom or by accident, she'll canter again and have a good experience. And believe me, she'll soon eclipse you in skill! They always do.
    I am looking forward to that day.
         
        12-25-2013, 09:03 PM
      #23
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    I agree with pretty much all the previous posters - get your daughter on a lunge line for future canter attempts, AND give her some space about the cantering issue.

    The other thing - I'm not sure why she's riding a pony that is, though bombproof, prone to keeping on running when she "bails" mentally? Not all horses are able to be a scared kid's horse and it might do to find one that can handle her breakdowns [and STOP when she stops riding].
    I teach lessons on my mare and that's perhaps her best quality as a lesson horse - doesn't matter what happens, if there's a child on her back and things go sideways, she WILL stop rather than bolt. With me, an adult, she'll totally bolt if the mood strikes, but absolutely never with a child. The kids know this and it gives them a LOT of confidence in her because they know that, even though the new activity might be scary/intimidating, they only need to worry about themselves.
    The kids always start working a new gait on the lungeline and I have no qualms about throwing them back on the line if they need a little help. :) It gives them less to focus on and I think it helps my horse not get frustrated with beginner mistakes.

    My mare actually worked her "magic" on me too - I used to be TERRIFIED to canter due to a series of bad experiences when I was taking lessons [I rode a gelding who would, without fail, buck into the canter. He got me off probably every other lesson and it really scarred my cantering experience] but then I started riding my mare, I realized that the last thing she would EVER do was buck at the canter or try to intimidate me at any gait higher than a walk.
    Now I love cantering, we canter a lot. :)
    On other horses, I'm still nervous about cantering but I don't directly go to panic-land like I did when I was younger.

    Not pushing the canter thing and letting me take my time getting there worked for me. However, with your daughter, I think I would reallllly try getting her on the lunge line and, if possible, getting her on a horse/pony that'll stop if she freaks out. That honestly has to be pretty scary - to panic, lose control due to panic, AND have the pony keep going... I would avoid cantering too, honestly.

    She'll get there one day!!
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        12-25-2013, 09:03 PM
      #24
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    Originally Posted by ecasey    
    She's had about 5 lessons since, each time declining the chance to cantor. The instructor doesn't want to do the longe line - she believes it's better for my daughter to just do it around the ring like everyone else.
    She should be on the lunge line for her first few canters, period. This would allow her to get used to the movement and get her position down without having to worry about steering/stopping/keeping the horse going.
         
        12-25-2013, 09:30 PM
      #25
    Started
    Well, what if she rode in a western saddle for a while?
    It won't ruin her for life...and it might make her feel more secure.
    Just a thought.
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        12-25-2013, 09:44 PM
      #26
    Foal
    If she's honestly that scared of it I'd let it go for now. One day (like tinyliny said) it's going to happen whether she's bored or by accident. She hasn't learned how to push through her fear yet so forcing her to do something she's terrified of won't help. If however she does want to try it again, ask her it she'd feel better on a lunge line with something to hold on to. Sometimes they just need a little more security and it works wonders!
         
        12-26-2013, 07:49 AM
      #27
    Green Broke
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    Originally Posted by Oshawapilot    
    I don't get the "lean way back" position. Straight up, yes, leaning forward, no, Shoulders back yes, shoulders forward, no..but lean back?

    I'm not a coach, but from the perspective of someone who has BEEN coached, I've never heard that.
    To lean back doesn't mean like your slouching on the couch watching a movie. Take a normal chair. The correct position to ride is with your butt all the way to the back and sitting up straight. To lean back is like scooting your butt a few inches forward but keeping your back against the back of the chair.

    The reasoning behind this is as a new rider, you are more likely to be tense or stiff and won't be able to move with the horse. Instead, you will be bounced around. Arching your lower back causes it to move easier with the horse. Take riding a bike with no hands. If you are forward any, it's hard to balance. It is possible to ride sitting up but your body can't absorb any bumps you go over. Leaning back, you can absorb the bumps and keep your balance easier. As you learn how to move with the bike/horse and to keep your balance, you can start to sit upright. I used to ride a bike often and experimented with this. This is also how I taught myself to ride a horse. It may not be the correct way but it works.
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        12-26-2013, 09:23 AM
      #28
    Green Broke
    Quit pushing her. This is a good way to make her quit this all together. Horseback riding is a LIFETIME adventure! She is only 10, she'll get there. Maybe revisit it in the spring. In the mean time she can work on no stirrup exercises, lunge line riding, trotting poles and getting her to trust her horse a bit more.
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        12-26-2013, 09:35 AM
      #29
    Yearling
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    Originally Posted by SlideStop    
    Quit pushing her. This is a good way to make her quit this all together. Horseback riding is a LIFETIME adventure! She is only 10, she'll get there. Maybe revisit it in the spring. In the mean time she can work on no stirrup exercises, lunge line riding, trotting poles and getting her to trust her horse a bit more.
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    No one is "pushing" her. If I were pushing her, I wouldn't bother asking for solutions to help her get over her fear. I would characterize what I'm doing more as "encouraging" her.
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        12-26-2013, 09:56 AM
      #30
    Green Broke
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    Originally Posted by ecasey    
    No one is "pushing" her. If I were pushing her, I wouldn't bother asking for solutions to help her get over her fear. I would characterize what I'm doing more as "encouraging" her.

    Every time you ask her what does she say? No. If you ask her tomorrow what do you think she is going to say? No. By repetitively asking about it you are subconsciously pushing her, if you want to believe that or not. I would "encourage" her by strenghting her skills now and respecting her decision not to canter. The skills may be there, but she is not ready mentally to take this on, and that's okay. 90% of horseback riding is in your head. Any monkey can just get on and hand on though all the gaits. If you apprehensive and nervous bad things can, and will, happen. Horses pick up on that energy, your child becomes scared and is so panicked she doesn't know how to react to the situation appropriately. Another accident and who knows how far that will set your daughter back.
         

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