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post #1 of 60 Old 03-22-2014, 07:43 PM Thread Starter
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Is my horse is to advanced for me?

Okay, so here's the thing, I have loved horses all of my life, & I have been trying to talk my parents into buying me one of my own, so I began taking lessons & working at barns with a vet also. After about a year of staying really serious & committed to horses my parents finally said yes, so we started looking for a horse to buy, & since I was not a beginner, we did not want a dead broke trail horse or lesson horse, but something that would take my riding talent to the next level. We found this 11 year gorgeous pinto mare that I test rode on a lunge line with trainers around & she rode great! She collected nicely, & had some dressage training also. I instantly fell in love with her so we bought her a couple days later. She came with some lessons & a month of free board, so when I took her to the lessons it was nearly impossible to keep her at a walk. I got better and better with controlling her, but when the month was over, she got back to our barn & still won't slow down or listen to me at all. I am an experienced rider, & was aware that she was a forward horse, but not that forward. She is horrible on trails, she tries to turn back to the barn every 2 seconds, turns in circles in the middle of the road when a car is coming, & is just plain naughty. I tried everything to get her to slow, but nothing works. I get so frustrated with her & I don't even know what to do, I told my parents that we should get rid of her & buy a pony/dead broke horse, but they said if I get rid of her I can't get another horse, and horses are my passion. I don't know what to do anymore, get a stronger bit? Send her training? Sell her? I just feel like she is to advanced. Plus I work with her just about every day, lunging or groundwork. My parents say its my fault that she wont listen to me, and that I need to work with her more outside, which I do occasionally because it is winter and there is lots of snow and ice. They also refuse to get me a trainer, so I would have to pay for one out of my own wallet (I'm only 15, so its hard to get a well paying job). I have also had her for five months :/
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post #2 of 60 Old 03-22-2014, 07:55 PM
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My ten year old has ridden since he was two. We bought him a well broke playday horse that was taking up space in someone's pasture when the girls that owned her discovered boys. He has ridden her for 8 years. He's in lessons and has been for a year now with really wonderful trainer and is often put on the hard to handle mounts because he can truly handle them. I've only just started letting him ride my mare that until now would have been too much for him. I still would not consider him experienced even with the number of different horses he's ridden and the number of years he's been riding. Sounds like your parents overbought in the interest of saving money when instead they should have bought a dead broke lesson horse for you to start with and traded up when the time was right. I am sorry you find yourself in this situation. Sadly it isn't uncommon. If they aren't going to support your efforts by providing lessons with this animal then it may be that selling her and saving up for when you have more experience and say in the purchase is what needs to happen. It isn't easy but sometimes it just is what it is.
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post #3 of 60 Old 03-22-2014, 08:01 PM
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You are sort of caught between a rock and a hard place. You need to either sell this one and find a more appropriate horse or invest in some serious training with a trainer. My advice, have an experienced horse person i.e. a trainer, barn owner or other equine professional give your parents their professional opinion of the horse. They need to understand that if you are afraid of this horse and its too much for you than you could be seriously injured. It benefits them to find a horse that is safe and appropriate for you. I assume that since they have cared for you for fifteen years that they wish to have you remain around. They may not understand the danger and risk that this horse poses. You need someone to explain that to them.
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post #4 of 60 Old 03-22-2014, 08:34 PM
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You said yourself you didn't want a dead broke horse you wanted something to take your skills to the next level. What do you know your wish was granted, this horse is not advanced it sounds like to me my advice is put in the hours to break this horse right get it over its barn sour issues and you'll have a horse. Sometimes we have to be careful what we wish for because they come true from time to time good luck
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post #5 of 60 Old 03-22-2014, 08:44 PM
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you could also try calling the previous owners as they could perhaps give you a lesson or tell you how they used to ride her and deal with these issues
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post #6 of 60 Old 03-22-2014, 08:46 PM
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One year of riding? You are NOT an experienced rider. And you are finding that out.

Sell this horse and buy a beginner safe horse that you can continue to build your skills on.

If you keep this horse then you need to convey the gravity of the situation to your parents. This horse is too much for you to handle. It is not safe. You need to be working with a trainer if you are going to keep the horse.

You said you took lessons for a year, then bought a horse, and now quit taking lessons? Not a good way to go about. It's not fun for you (or the horse) when you are both frustrated.

Don't just get a stronger bit. It won't fix the problem and she'll eventually not listen to the new bit.

You could send her for training but you still would need to take lessons. You can train a horse but if you do not also train the rider, the horse will eventually revert back to the same problem.

The fact that you don't know the last two things I just said are proof that you are still a beginner rider and not experienced. Don't fool yourself. It's not a bad thing to be a beginner rider (we were all there once) but you need to be honest with your abilities.

Either sell this horse and get a dead broke one. Or take lessons with this horse.
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post #7 of 60 Old 03-22-2014, 08:51 PM
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My advice would be to sell this horse. You can still feed your passion for horses. Would your parents be willing to support you studying under a trainer without a horse? Are you willing to do chores in exchange for lessons? If you are determined to keep horses in your life, you can find a way.

I had a dead broke mare bought for me at age 11, after riding my entire life at a friends barn. You would be surprised at how much those horses can still teach and challenge you. After I lost that mare, I got a green quarab mare. I fell off a lot. I got frustrated a lot. But when my parents split two years later and I had to sell my horse, I was proud of how far we came. I didn't own a horse again until today. I did a high school internship at an English barn. After graduation, I moved to MS and worked six months as a working student. An old teacher offered me a job at a barn back home. I took it. And today, I finally bought my heart horse. A horse I intend to keep forever.

The point to my rambling is this- you don't have to lose the passion just because you lose the horse. Work hard, ride as many horses as you can get your hands on, pinch pennies, and wait for the right timing.

"But I can tell you this: When you get to square ten, all of square one will be in it." RayHunt
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I second everything that Beau said. this horse is too much for you. your parents need to understand that they made a mistake buying you a horse, and definintely made a mistake buying you THIS horse, and if they just let you flail around, they may really regret that mistake, too, if you end up hurt.

either sell the mare, or start working part time to pay for some lessons with a trainer. show your parents this thread so they can see what other seasoned horse people think of your situation.
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post #9 of 60 Old 03-22-2014, 09:11 PM
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First of all 1 year of riding is NOT a lot even if you would have ridden 6 different horses every day!

My understanding is that you 'test' rode that horse on a lunge line? And not without? Well, horses that are ridden while being lunged usually listen to the person on the ground - that is why beginners often start out with riding on the lunge line.

That horse does not sound to experienced or advanced for you it sounds like it has not been probably trained yet. My advice is either:

- sell the horse
- get a trainer

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You have to make her respect you! Honestly, I don't know how, but that is what you have to do. I would caution against hitting. Well, a swat every now and then might not hurt. But do you know, rewarding her behavior when she's good might be the best thing to start off with. And maybe not punishing bad behaviors, other than to control them. Has she run away with you yet? And was it a spook, or was she just play acting?
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