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post #1 of 5 Old 09-16-2013, 02:48 PM Thread Starter
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I'm a beginner so bits are a little confusing to me. I have a OTSB that is learning to be a riding horse. We are taking lessons together and so far so good. I want whats best for him and I want to avoid any bit that's harsh. I was told to get him a D-ring sweet iron snaffle. I found two different ones and I'm trying to figure out which will be best. The first one is a two piece and the second is the 3 piece which has the copper roller in the middle. I've read that the roller will keep the bit from having a "Nutcracker" affect. If anyone has some advice on this type of bit please let me know. Any advice will help.
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post #2 of 5 Old 09-16-2013, 03:08 PM
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I'm a beginner so bits are a little confusing to me. I have a OTSB that is learning to be a riding horse. We are taking lessons together and so far so good. I want whats best for him and I want to avoid any bit that's harsh. I was told to get him a D-ring sweet iron snaffle. I found two different ones and I'm trying to figure out which will be best. The first one is a two piece and the second is the 3 piece which has the copper roller in the middle. I've read that the roller will keep the bit from having a "Nutcracker" affect. If anyone has some advice on this type of bit please let me know. Any advice will help.
I, personally, will always choose a 3 piece bit, as they are nicer the mouth..
Mine don't have rollers, but just an olive for the middle piece.. I find horses are happier with the 3 pieces, than 2.
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We have ALL been through this and been subjected to the arguments of what is harsh, what isn't harsh and even the idea that no bit at all is the very best way to go.
First things first. A horse weighs 8x-10x what YOU weigh. When trained they listen very well to halts and half halts with that little piece of metal in their mouths. There are many who say that God put a gap between the incisors and molars on a horse JUST SO that we could control them with that piece of metal. People for 5,000 years all over the world have controlled their horses with metal bits.
For MOST horses we start them in a simple, jointed snaffle and many people will ride their horse his entire life in a simple, jointed snaffle. Many people refine their communication with their horse with a plain, mullen or low port curb bit. There are cases where a horse is more comfortable with a port in the mouthpiece and many bit manufacturers produce snaffle bits with a solid piece with a port that creates "tongue relief."
You should tt your instructor or trainer about what bit you should use. Many times a horse will toss his head or not listen to the bit bc of disobedience instead of pain. Many times a horse just needs more training or, if young, needs to have a softer training touch so that he can relax. THAT describes my 7yo QH. He was tossing his head and pulling on the snaffle at first. After I did ground training with him and established control he was quiet, with the same bit.
I cannot ascertain this for you bc I'm not there.
Here is an excellent thread to help you. =D
Bit Information (Snaffle and English-Type Bits)

A Jack and Three Queens, the latest book by James C. Dedman, Amazon.com
Hope that you fall in love with "Trot", like I did! http://www.horseforum.com/general-of...queens-617793/

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The vast array of bits available and people's different ideas & recommendations can be very confusing! Further to what Corporal said, it is mostly in the training & way the horse is ridden - a halter can be harsh & a... gag or some such 'harsh' bit can be used gently & well.

That said, I personally like to start horses - and people - off in a halter. More 'margin for error' while learning. Bits have been used for so long because it is (usually) possible to control a large animal through force with a little bit of metal in the mouth & it doesn't take much force to inflict pain. The horse learns(if the rider is effective) to avoid the pain by yielding to soft pressure. I would choose the 3 piece snaffle, to reduce the possibility of jabbing/pinching.
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took me 3 days of searching to find the right direction to put in a snaffle

I have an O-ring snaffle and the each section of metal is curved

Bend it one way and there was a sharp angle in the front with the back curving away

Bend it the other way and it was a wider angle with the back curving in

If I read it right --- wider angle with the back curving in is the right way
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