Teaching a beginner, bad situation - Page 2
 
 

       The Horse Forum > Keeping and Caring for Horses > New to Horses

Teaching a beginner, bad situation

This is a discussion on Teaching a beginner, bad situation within the New to Horses forums, part of the Keeping and Caring for Horses category

    Like Tree25Likes

     
    LinkBack Thread Tools
        07-02-2014, 01:08 AM
      #11
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Elsa5    
    Yes teach her how to lounge for respect!!! Its surprising how few people actually know how to. Since learning I do it daily with my extremely disrespectful and spoiled mare. And her personality completely changed. Im a beginner and this has helped me and my horse so much! Sure for the first few days I was incredibly sore but now she's very soft and responsive
    Posted via Mobile Device
    Yeah I told her to do this before I ever even suggested her coming out but she seems very hesitant, stating the horse WONT. Maybe ill have her lunge a few of mine. I think she just doesn't want to make her horse do anything.
    Marcie likes this.
         
    Sponsored Links
    Advertisement
     
        07-02-2014, 05:52 AM
      #12
    Weanling
    Obviously the parents are ignorant of horses and went out and bought the 1st one that came along. I'm guessing that they are regretting the decision and want this girl to also get so discouraged that she gives up and they can get rid of it. This happens constantly in my area where parents give in to horse crazy little girls and buy without doing research into what owning entails, and without providing the kid with at least riding lessons.

    They don't want you or anyone else on their property so you have to honor that. However, if the girl is allowed to hang out at your place with you all you can do is have her watch how you handles and work with your own. Explain why and how for everything you do, starting at the very bottom basics like leading, tying, grooming etc., then work up from there. Let her practice a bit but continue to correct her.

    Lunging isn't going to be possible since her home area is hilly so you will have show her other methods of making a horse respect a human.
    It's obvious she should have been started in riding lessons long before her parents bought her this horse but it sounds like this is not going to happen.
    You may have to just back off from your ambition to help this girl and just do the little bit that you can do. Don't get your own hopes up too much.

    Chances are that the parents will wake up and sell this horse anyway-they will become disgusted with having invested so much time and $$$$ in a project that this child can't handle.

    Sad, but it happens all the time.
         
        07-02-2014, 07:04 AM
      #13
    Green Broke
    ... Something about this just screams Lawsuit waiting to happen.

    I'd that the horse out of it's environment permently, if possible, and YOU work that horse for the next month or so. It hard for a beginner to learn anything on a horse that doesn't know what their doing. Plus, it gives the other owner and break and some time to "refresh" their attitude towards the horse. Invite her to watch your sessions and explain what your doing an why your doing it so she can take it in.
    Posted via Mobile Device
         
        07-02-2014, 09:02 AM
      #14
    Yearling
    Like SlideStop my brain instantly went to lawsuit. Have you considered what would happen if she was injured while under your tutelage and they sued you? Do you have liability insurance? I'm not trying to sound negative because I have helped kids out too, and know you are trying to do something nice for this kid, but these are things to consider, especially if you get a bad vibe from the parents. How old is the girl? Does she have permission to come get help (if she is a minor)? Are you a minor too?

    Personally I would start with ground work (with your horses if need be), teaching her how to get horses respect from the ground first. I would also try to talk with the parents and get them on board. If they will not agree to allow you to help her then really not much you can do and she will not be able to make much progress I am afraid.
         
        07-02-2014, 09:52 AM
      #15
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by rescuechick    
    Here is where the situation is sticky, her parents do not want me over there AT ALL, they are all like if she can't handle the horse then maybe she shouldn't ride it, so she is very discouraged, which is why I wanted to show her all the cool things her horse can do with practice. Something gives me a bad impression about these people. I want her to come out here so that I can show her some things to do with her horse, but I don't want her riding mine because I don't want anyone getting mad at me. I was just going to show her how to do a few things to get her started.
    how old are you?
    How old is the girl?

    I am wondering why they wouldn't want you over there?
    Did they actually say "if she can't handle the horse then maybe she shouldn't ride it" ?
    If you can get her out there without having problems with her parents, go for it.
    If you can speak with the parents and teach the girl how to work her horse safely, go for it.

    As a beginner myself, before I had lessons, my daughters new horse gave me all sorts of problems -- problem #1 was that I did not recognize bad behaviour for what it was ---- problem #2 was that I did not know how to go about correcting bad behaviour

    So, I believe Yogiwick hit the nail on the head when he said you need to see how the horse/rider pair work together
    jenkat86 likes this.
         
        07-02-2014, 10:10 AM
      #16
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by rescuechick    
    Here is where the situation is sticky, her parents do not want me over there AT ALL, they are all like if she can't handle the horse then maybe she shouldn't ride it, so she is very discouraged, which is why I wanted to show her all the cool things her horse can do with practice. Something gives me a bad impression about these people. I want her to come out here so that I can show her some things to do with her horse, but I don't want her riding mine because I don't want anyone getting mad at me. I was just going to show her how to do a few things to get her started.
    I would invite the parents out too...if that's an option. One thing that bothers me more than anything is parents allowing their child to have something like a horse, but not enforcing the responsibility of it. SO MANY PEOPLE get involved in horses who think it's just like having a dog. Then, really good horses go to waste because their owners don't know how to communicate with it. I kind of agree with the parents...if she can't handle the horse, she shouldn't ride it. But if you look at it that way, she won't be able to ride ANY horse because even the best trained horse will be untouchable if there isn't proper communication.

    I feel for ya. It's a tough spot to be in. Lots of outcomes here. Hopefully nobody (horse included)gets hurt or offended. Good luck!
    Chasin Ponies likes this.
         
        07-02-2014, 10:35 AM
      #17
    Green Broke
    Without knowing what her horse is like there is no way I'd show the girl how to do anything. Working with your trained horses is a whole other ball game than one who may know nothing. Most of training is anticipating problems & preventing them from happening or being able to make quick corrections. That girl can't do that.
    Your horses may lunge great, hers make scoot in & throw a kick.
    Yogiwick likes this.
         
        07-02-2014, 05:58 PM
      #18
    Green Broke
    Something else going on there if they are that adamant about no one there...what I can't tell, but have a few thoughts, and none of them are good ones. Normal people would be glad to have someone help.

    I'd waste no time on showing her what your horse can do. Your time with her may be very, very limited, so teach her how to lead, move horse, halter, basics that she can safely work on at home.

    You may only get one chance to help her, so stick to that.

    Might get her subscription to horse magazine? IF they will allow that.
         

    Thread Tools

    Similar Threads
    Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
    Teens teaching beginner lessons? WildAtHeart Horse Talk 13 01-23-2014 08:41 AM
    Bad, Bad Tail Situation imhispunkin Horse Grooming 15 11-21-2012 08:31 PM
    Teaching beginner lessons. EventersBabe Horse Talk 63 05-03-2010 10:14 PM
    BAD situation WesternPleasure1029 Horse Videos 10 10-23-2009 02:55 PM



    All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:28 PM.


    Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
    Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
    Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0