your grackle noseband really needs to go up a hole or two,it looks like its sitting on the soft part of the noses bone sructure which can cause damage and be uncomfortable for your horse,does he/she really need a grackle? a well fitted flash could be better. :)
posted pictures and I do think I need to adjust my figure 8 so that it sits a bit higher (though I'm 100% certain it's not sitting on the soft part of his nose, so no worries there). The figure 8 is a temporary thing (well, hopefully temporary) meant to discourage him from sticking his tongue out. I prefer the figure 8 over the flash because I believe they're generally more comfortable and less prone to cutting off the horse's airway (but feel free to link me to sources for conflicting opinions!).
In a more "forced" position, I sometimes wonder if that is what tie-downs and cavasons were invented. Forcing the mouth closed.
I like to think that yes, the cavesson was created to force the mouth to stay closedóbut I hope it was invented for safety reasons, not style! After all, one of the main reasons they're used with English setups is to prevent the possibility of snaffle bits sliding through the mouth. I wouldn't really feel comfortable riding in a snaffle bit without some form of noseband, just in case.[/QUOTE]
He is cute! But I really think the bit us too high. Also, does it have any curve to ut, or us it straight.
Excited to try it out with the bit a little lower, I just have to wait for my darn horse to recover from his muscle soreness. I think the bit has a slight curve to it, but I can't really recall at the moment. Can't say I really knew a lot about English bits when I bought it, just went to the tack store and came back with the simplest loose ring snaffle I could buy. All I can tell you is that it's a 5.5" Korsteel loose ring snaffle (single joint and the thicker of the ones they were selling at the store), ha ha.
As said you want a loose ring to fit slightly bigger then the "proper" size compared to other bits. So 5.5 may be good for him but in a loose ring I'd go bigger. It looks far to small in the first pics then fine in the others, may be the noseband is causing it to sit a little differently?
The second set of pictures is probably a better set to go with, my bet is that the first pic it was a little off center in his mouth, whereas I know it didn't get moved around during the second set. So, if the 5.5" loose ring fits him (which I think it does, he has a good 1/4" of space between the corners of his mouth and the bit on both sides), what size of D-ring do I buy?
I'm a bit concerned that it was your trainer that tightened it to that level!? I think bit is too short across in his mouth. Do you really need the grackle? If not ditch it because you want to train in gear you will compete in. The cavesson, I like where you have it sitting but I would loosen it round the nose, decorative only rather than restricting the jaw. I quite like an eggbutt, but realize it works a little different on the horses mouth. Certainly worth a try if you can borrow one before you start spending money. Personally not keen on the D ring but just aesthetics.
Thanks for the concern, but my trust in my trainer is 100% (with a two percent margin of error that accounts for differing opinions, lol). There are pros and cons for having the bit high in the mouth vs. low in the mouth, and I am confident that when she originally adjusted his bridle she did it with consideration for our individual situation (possibly having to do with him playing with his tongue and her not wanting him to get it over the bit in the initial stages of his training, because there were a couple of times where we had to check, HA).
The figure 8 is temporary (hopefully) and I don't really have more to say on it that I haven't said already. It'll be on him until I decide (with the input of my trainer) that it's time to remove it and switch back to a cavesson, and if we end up schooling in it forever, that's fine with me! And neither my cavesson nor my figure 8 are cranked tight, they're set at a very comfortable level that lets the equipment do its job without making him uncomfortable.
Funny enough, I feel the same way about the eggbutt/D-ring debate, except the opposite; I like the D-ring, but I'm personally not keen on the aesthetics of the eggbutt (which sounds silly because aesthetics shouldn't really come into a debate about which bit to use, but...). :)