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post #21 of 39 Old 01-11-2017, 02:59 AM
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Ok, I'm sorry, but I can't resist so keep you pants on I'm not bashing anyone here :)))))). The bit is just a tool. Like a hammer or a knife so don't take this the wrong way.

I'm real partial to my bits....do have them positioned correctly or is one of the positioned wrong?.

Oh, wait.......I don't use any .

Sometimes the mood hits me (wait, the mood always hits me ) and I just have a tough time resisting. Sorry to have disrupted the thread. Please carry on :).
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post #22 of 39 Old 01-11-2017, 11:51 AM
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The Figure 8 (Grackle as its also known in the UK because it was originally worn in the 30's by a racehorse of that name) is more used on horses that 'cross their jaw' in an effort to run away with you - they can evade the bit when they do it. I don't think its anywhere near as effective in holding the mouth shut (which is what you want to do re. the tongue poking) as flash strap is.
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Yes, the physics of the figure 8 makes crossing the jaw more difficult. But my gelding was able to wag his tongue in it just fine. A well fitted flash or miklem may help your case a bit better....

But a make sure your tongue-y horse is up to date with the dentist. Sometime a bit of bit wax for them to chew on can make them a bit happier. My gelding was happiest with a small port for his big tongue.

But what really helped was making the bit boring...he spent a bit of time just packing the bit around on a Weymouth hanger(so he could escape it if needed-no throat latch) so the bit lost a bit of novelty. He ate with it, drank with it and lived in it for a bit. He stopped playing with his tongue because it wasn't a game to play with me anymore.
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What brand of bit is that that you're currently using? Only reason I ask is that, judging from the pictures, the connection point where the ring goes through the mouthpiece looks like it might be a little sharp/pinchy/abrupt.


The loose ring bits I use are all shaped and tapered in that area to prevent the lip from getting over there and being pinched during normal riding.


This is the style I most commonly use (not sure if double jointed are permissible in shows though) and I've had zero problems with rubs or pinching at the lips in these.
https://www.amazon.com/KORSTEEL-Copp...e+ring+snaffle

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I'd try an eggbutt or D-ring snaffle as others have suggested. The Korsteel brand ones are generally good quality at very reasonable prices. I agree with several others that a flash is likely more effective than a figure eight given the situation you have described.

Some horses' lips are just more sensitive than others and applying a little vaseline to their lips pre-ride may help prevent pinching or rubbing.
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I had the chance to actually MEET Stephani where she boards her horse. we got to talk about his bridle fit and bits and I suggest something like this:



or




meaning, a bit with the swept back curve to the mouthpiece right before it meets the rings. Her horse has a very short mouth, meaning if you look at it from the side, the line of the lips is not very long. so, you can lower the bit, which she did, but there's not a ton of leeway before you start interfering with the canine teeth.

just as she said, he seemed pretty sore in the hind end so
. can you see from this short clip, where you think his discomfort is originiating?
I thought right hind, but am now wondering . . left?


and, I pronounced her name "Ste-fawn-ee" but maybe that's not right.
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"off hind " meaning right hind, ?
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