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        09-23-2013, 04:40 AM
      #11
    Green Broke
    It could be you all are very aggravating to be around too.

    High pitched voices, quick movements, high energy with lots of laughing and squealing will make horses do this.

    Could be you girth too tight, or just in general are on horse's nerves.
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        09-26-2013, 04:21 PM
      #12
    Foal
    Thanks for your input

    I looked into ulcers, but the symptoms don't seem right.
    Also, if the tack were the issue, shouldn't she be fine with me on ground level?
    Here's something new to add: a lot of times we ride bareback. Today, I noticed that her ears would swing backwards the moment we got near her back. So clearly she's sending the message "DONT YOU DARE GET ON ME". But why? Once were out on the path she's fine, its just the mounting.
    I'm getting really worried, and they plan on selling Tijuana because the adults don't have time to correct her habits. Of course, my boyfriend hopes to buy her so I'm not worried about her new home, I just don't like that we'd have to give up on her like that.
         
        09-26-2013, 11:49 PM
      #13
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by lilkittie7991    
    I looked into ulcers, but the symptoms don't seem right.
    Also, if the tack were the issue, shouldn't she be fine with me on ground level?
    Here's something new to add: a lot of times we ride bareback. Today, I noticed that her ears would swing backwards the moment we got near her back. So clearly she's sending the message "DONT YOU DARE GET ON ME". But why? Once were out on the path she's fine, its just the mounting.
    I'm getting really worried, and they plan on selling Tijuana because the adults don't have time to correct her habits. Of course, my boyfriend hopes to buy her so I'm not worried about her new home, I just don't like that we'd have to give up on her like that.
    Maybe she is having back pain. I would have a massage therapist and chiropractor out. But first you can try to give her bute. If afterwards (about 30-45 min later) she is better, it's definitely pain.
         
        09-27-2013, 12:24 AM
      #14
    Started
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    Originally Posted by mrstorres2566    
    But first you can try to give her bute. If afterwards (about 30-45 min later) she is better, it's definitely pain.
    I would be wary of doing this - if she has back pain that is exacerbated during mounting, then even if you give her a bucketful of bute she's still going to be grumpy and aggressive when you go to mount her because she is anticipating the pain.

    Also - I am not a big fan of using bute without vet advice. Pain can be caused by so many different causes that unadvised use of drugs can have unintended causes.

    The others have given good advice regarding keeping the little ones safe. A grumpy horse is not going to be tolerant of unwanted affection.

    Have you checked for girth sores?
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        09-27-2013, 01:03 AM
      #15
    Banned
    This is how Drifter started presenting when his ulcers acted up. He hated being touched, petted, groomed on, etc.

    It started off as only on some days and then got more and more frequent. I would be looking into possibly ulcers or perhaps an illfitting saddle but I am definitely with churumbeque on this one.

    I think its a pain issue
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        09-27-2013, 11:36 AM
      #16
    Foal
    You guys have opened my eyes so much, I'm going to see if we can get a vet out. But I think you're all right, it could be back pain or ulcers. That would explain a lot of her behavior lately. Maybe its both? But thanks, I love Tijuana so much, and with your input I have some idea now, I just can't say thank you enough!!
         
        09-27-2013, 09:52 PM
      #17
    Weanling
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    Originally Posted by Shropshirerosie    
    I would be wary of doing this - if she has back pain that is exacerbated during mounting, then even if you give her a bucketful of bute she's still going to be grumpy and aggressive when you go to mount her because she is anticipating the pain.

    Also - I am not a big fan of using bute without vet advice. Pain can be caused by so many different causes that unadvised use of drugs can have unintended causes.

    The others have given good advice regarding keeping the little ones safe. A grumpy horse is not going to be tolerant of unwanted affection.

    Have you checked for girth sores?
    Eh, 1-2 tabs of bute never hurt anyone. Our vet recommends it for everything, literally.
         
        10-03-2013, 02:36 AM
      #18
    Foal
    That is a tricky situation. It is great advice from others to check your equipment and check with a vet to make sure there are no medical issues with the horse. After that you may decide that your horse is having a behavioral problem.

    If there are no medical or equipment issues, then your horse is just communicating to you with her body. She is telling you (and/or the others) to move away from her. It sounds like you already know how to read her body language, that is good because it is possible that if you don't move away or move her away then the next thing she may do is bite or kick someone to make then listen.

    It might be a good idea to find an Excellent trainer in your area to do some ground work with. This could help smooth things out a bit with your mare. If you don't know of anyone in your area, Clinton Anderson has some videos ( I like them, some people don't), or maybe Pat Parelli or Monty Roberts have some videos or youtube clips to help you learn about horse body language and how to influence your horse while on the ground. It sounds like you are taking good care of her, and already are well on your way to understanding her. Hope this helps
         
        10-03-2013, 07:08 AM
      #19
    Yearling
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    Originally Posted by mrstorres2566    
    Eh, 1-2 tabs of bute never hurt anyone. Our vet recommends it for everything, literally.
    Not to derail this thread, but your Vet needs some education. Bute has side effects, some of them can be severe and like all drugs it shouldn't be given out like candy. For example, if a horse has ulcers and you give them Bute it will make them worse instead of better.

    Lots of info out there on the web about it, but this is a good overview article.
    Dangers of Bute in Horses
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