The LAPD's handling of Dorner

I am not sure how I feel about the LAPD's handling of Dorner. I mean, they ram and shoot at an innocent person while driving in their vehicle, shoot at two women delivering newspapers in a vehicle that doesn't match the make and model of the suspect's, then they bulldoze and burn down a cabin that I assume didn't belong to Dorner - but in which he was reportedly held up. And, all the while Dorner's point was, in general, the LAPD has some rogue players. Hmmm.

IMHO, Dorner was a dead man walking.
The LAPD had no intention of taking him alive.

It doesn't come as a surprise to me...rather predictable I would say...

Well, what is interesting is Dorner was reportedly fired for giving false statement about a fellow officer in training (Dorner claimed the other officer had used excessive force). To put that in perspective, perjury in court is almost never punished in any "real" way...at most an attorney will get sanctioned, but a person - nada. Yet, cops shoot at a mother and daughter delivering papers (going slow) in a vehicle that does not match the suspects - and that were not "warned" or asked to pull over?? Yet, the officers that shot at them are not fired? So making allegedly making false statement about an officer is punishable, but shooting at (and, in this case wounding) civilians is just "understandable"? You have to ask yourself, why would Dorner have told falsehoods about another officer's conduct? What would he have to gain?

Clearly Dorner was disturbed of late, as was made clear by his "last" actions. But, I don't think anyone identified him as "disturbed" when he was fired. They are two unrelated "occurances" (why he was fired, started murdering). I tend to believe he was unjustly fired and he just didn't get the memo..."all lapd members are above the law, unless and until they attack a fellow lapd member".

I will TOTALLY stay out of this discussion, after this post. People are just so gleeful to point fingers and excoriate cops these days. Until you have been there......

Well, I am not pointing my finger at cops, or the navy, or the reserves. The "d" in lapd (i.e., department) requires management. The management of the lapd has come under fire many times, it can't all be "imagined". But, then again...LA? It isn't exactly mayberry.


Should no police conduct ever be questioned, or ever have been...otherwise it is just "pointing a finger"? Why not extend that "above the law" status to all citizens, equally? Are only cops allowed to "point a finger" at another cop (remember, Dorner was a cop before he was fired).

Well said. I am SO tired of it. Really.

Missy-what would you have them do with a guy who killed several cops, and threatened their families? Try to make nice with him? Honestly, I am glad they saved the taxpayers a ton of $$ with trials, jail, etc. Join the force, join the service-"walk a mile", then come back.

You seem to think that the police shooting at the woman and her daughter (and hitting the woman twice) while they were delivering newspapers, or stopping a man at a check point then ramming his vehicle and shooting at him a few minutes later are both just "what they had to do", and I wouldn't understand b/c I am not a cop.

Some folks feel standard procedure is necessary. For example, standards/procedures are applied to the food you eat, feed your animals, pharmas, cars, trains, ammo or guns you shoot, airplanes you might fly in, etc., etc,. Standards/procedures are not "magically" found behind some burning bush, they are developed and perfected over time. Some things, like police work, do not allow for procedured in a defensive situation for obvious reason. HOWEVER, checking the make, model, plates, and color of a slow moving truck delivering papers against that of a suspect's - I amguessing is standard procedure. IF it is not, then this is a perfect opportunity for the lapd to maybe learn something and consider including it in their training.

I agree, it saved the taxpayers a bundle for Dorner to have died and not have gone through the justice system. But, then again, that could be said for any "major" criminal. Simply b/c our justice system (which is entirely separate from police departments) allows for million dollar dog and pony shows doesn't mean police should abandon the law or procedures....such as, checking make, color, and model of a vehicle before they open fire. There is no relationship between these things.

I have been around the military nearly all my life, and I come from a very long line of military service. So, does this allows me the freedom to question a given military "event", but not "others", or should that freedom ONLY be extended to those that are/have served? For example, I don't even get the concept of collateral damage in a theater where there is no uniformed military on the "enemy's side". But, is there an ongoing war I am unaware of in the streets of LA and is collateral damage not an issue there??

Our police forces have become a haven for thugs. They do whatever, to whoever, whenever they want. With zero consequences unless you happen to get it on tape. Even now various places are passing laws to prohibit filming cops. So go figure. Not even the protection of the media or public outrage.

Sorry folks-I have a huge amount of respect for them. Their job is basically a no win situation much of the time-no matter what they do, they will be chastised. I for one would hate to be without them. What some seem to forget is the they are also human. They are not machines, and yes, they are subject to make mistakes just like the rest of us. We will have to agree to disagree on this one.

FWIW-I am also a huge fan of the SEALS, as most of you know, and believe totally in what they do-the secret nature of much of it. Our world is a much safer place because of them. I am sure some of you would not be in favor of some of what they do for sure. To say the least.

As "my" Seal used to tell me-"the world is an ugly place. You have NO clue, and we do what we do so that you don't have to know." May he rest in peace.