The LAPD's handling of Dorner

How "wronged" he felt has absolutely zero to do w anything I said...nor does the fact that the sun comes up in the east, for that matter.

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Missy May, I have no idea what went on in LA and frankly, don't care, not my jurisdiction. But the deputy Dorner killed on his last miserable day on this earth was a friend of mine, as is the deputy who is now undergoing extensive rehab because he ambushed them. I am glad they took him down. I'm glad they took the house down around him. I don't care if he felt wronged or was wronged, this man had done nothing to him before he, DORNER, killed him. I hope he burns in Hell for all eternity and if there was a worse fate, I'd wish that on him too.

To set the record completely straight, LAPD did not kill Dorner. My friends and brothers in arms with the San Bernardino County Sheriff's Department did and I can't begin to say how grateful I am that they did. They didn't pick this fight, it was brought to them. They did however, do as they had been trained and they finished this fight, BY THE TACTICAL AND PROCEDURAL BOOK.

If you think what Dorner did was ok, you have a lot of growing up to do. Would you have the guts to say that to Deputy MacKay's Wife and KIDS that are left behind?


San Bernardino County Sheriff's Office, California
Detective Jeremiah MacKay
End Of Watch: 02-12-13
Detective Jeremiah MacKay, 35, was gunned down while hunting for a suspected Cop killer/spree killer. (details below). Born with a soul that has courage to wear the badge, Detective MacKay had been Saving, Serving and Protecting the People since July of 1998. Brother Jeremiah was 'Blue to the bone'. His commitment to service and the Brotherhood ran very deep. Assigned to the Yucaipa Station, Detective MacKay was liked by everyone he worked along side of and the citizens truly loved their hometown Hero. Jeremiah was all about life and making it as nice as possible for everyone in it. Taking great pride in his uniform and his oath, Detective MacKay represented Law Enforcement in an incredibly Honorable way. This fearless Warrior was huge on training and he went out of his way to make sure his fellow Officers also kept up their training. Brother Jeremiah even became a firearms instructor to help teach his Brothers and Sisters how to keep as safe as possible. Then when a call went out, Detective MacKay was often the first one 'out the door' and en route. If it were a hot, potentially violent call, you could bet this Warrior was ready for anything and everything and be assured that no call was ever unimportant to this Hero. You see, Jeremiah was all about the People and seeing to their needs. Even as a young boy, our Brother knew he was going to be a firefighter like his daddy or be a Police Officer. He was 'the great protector' and went out of his way to help anyone in need. Oh how he just loved to know that he made a difference in so many lives, and he did so not for any accolades, but simply because it made him smile to see others smile.

With his positive outlook and his love of life and all that it had to offer, you would be hard pressed to remember a day when Jeremiah was not in a good mood. And boy was he contagious! One look at that smile and one could not help but smile in return and if by some chance you didn't straight away, just give it a second and he would have you laughing with his amazing sense of humor. Jeremiah found the lighter side in everything and it helped to keep him well-balanced. Though, one might argue that his compassion outweighed everything else. Detective MacKay's generosity of time did not stop with the citizens and those he worked with ... Jeremiah was huge on remembering our fallen and assisting the families of those sick, injured or killed in Law Enforcement. Our Brother played the bagpipes and was Sergeant-at-arms for the Inland Empire Emerald Society and often played at fundraisers. In a sad twist of irony, this Friday Jeremiah was scheduled to attend and play a a fundraiser for the National Law Enforcement Officer Memorial at Friday's worldwide Saint Practice Day ...

When not out saving his small corner of the world, Jeremiah loved spending time with his newly-wed wife, family and close friends. But it was time spent with his little girl that gave him the greatest joy ... adding only to this, the birth of his son just 4 months ago. A young boy who will never know his father first hand. So it is up to us to make sure that both his children grow up knowing how much of a difference their daddy did make and how he tried so hard to Live As Only A Hero Could. This humble hero, son, husband, father, and Brother of Blue will be incredibly missed by so very many ... so few will forget the day he Gave His Life As Only A Warrior Dare ... for the People ...

*note - the following information on what transpired this day is all that is confirmed official by acting agencies - the investigation is ongoing and we will update facts as permitted* An all-out manhunt for a suspected spree killer had been going on non-stop for 10 days, during which time three people had been killed, including a Riverside Police Officer - three other Officers had been shot at as well, two of whom were struck by gunfire. The shooter was believed to possibly be holed up in the mountains of San Bernardino. Detective MacKay was on this search team. He had just began his third straight day at 0500hours. A report of a car-jacking in the area was reported and Detective MacKay's team headed out. The suspect saw the police vehicles and opened up with an onslaught of gunfire. Detective MacKay and SBCSO Deputy Sheriff Alex Collins were hit. The suspect then ran into a nearby cabin and continued to fire on the authorities. The call of "OFFICER DOWN" came through the airwaves but the stricken Deputies were pinned down ...

NO MAN LEFT BEHIND: Fellow Officers who had rushed to the scene and while under non-stop gunfire, with no hesitation nor reservation, ran into the hail of bullets to retrieve their fallen comrades. A helicopter was able to land about 400 feet away and our wounded Blue Warriors were airlifted out. A barricade situation ensued, more gunfire exchanged for hours. After determining there were no hostages, the authorities shot in a cold canister followed by a hot one, in hopes of smoking the shooter out. The cabin caught fire and spread quickly, engulfing the entire structure. The next morning, officials discovered a body but the identity is not yet known. (SEE UPDATE BELOW) Deputy Collins has undergone surgery and is scheduled for more. He is in good spirits at this time and is expected to recover. Sadly and with a heavy heart, this proved to be our Brother's final battle ... At 1424hours, Detective Jeremiah MacKay #1226 succumbed to multiple gunshot wounds and was pronounced.

The acts of incredible courage under fire by our Warriors who were determined to retrieve their brethren should not go unnoticed. We thank you all for your amazing will and heroic actions. *Also note this is a just brief summary of all that has occurred in the last 11 days - additional details can be found at links provided below*

Jeremiah leaves behind his beloved newly-wed bride Lynette, daughter, 7, and son, 4 months old. Our heartfelt thoughts and prayers go out to the entire MacKay family, the Men and Women of the San Bernardino County SO, all the agencies involved, and to all whom have had the pleasure and the privilege of knowing and working along side this True Blue Hero. Special healing thoughts to you Brother Alex - may you keep fighting tough and heal thoroughly both physically and mentally. This has been an incredibly hard situation on so very many. This has affected all of Law Enforcement and their families, as well as many the citizens. May we all stand close together and take care of one another by being there and offering support and assistance along with making sure everyone affected has available to them the names and numbers of mental health professionals. We have provided a link below to assist.

Our Brother, as you now patrol the streets of Heaven, may you continue your vigilant watch over us all as we carry on in the battles to come ... In Our Brother's Honor. We thank you for your service and for your sacrifice. We thank you for your life. Job Well Done Sir.

Rest In Peace Detective Jeremiah MacKay #1226 ... We have the watch from here. SALUTE!

~written by Nessie for TrueBlueWarriors.org~ www.facebook.com/truebluewarriors
Copyright2013 TrueBlueWarriors/Nessie

SBCSO: San Bernardino County Sheriff-Coroner's Department

Riverside PD Officer Michael Crain's Life Remembrance can be found at this link: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater

For mental health tools/resources, please visit BOL: Badge Of Life: Police Suicide Prevention: Badgeoflife.com - Police Suicide Prevention Program (you do not have to be a LEO to use this site, so we encourage everyone to at least check their resources)

02/14 - We have just confirmed with the San Bernardino County Sheriff's Coroner that the suspect found in the burned remains is in fact Christopher Jordan Dorner, the subject of this manhunt and the suspect of this killing spree. Positive identification was made through dental records. No cause of death yet given. NOW it is done. Once again, we would like to thank all of our Warriors who never gave up the search. We will always be eternally grateful to our Heroes who gave their lives in order to keep the People safe. Our heartfelt thoughts and prayers continue to be with all the victims and their families. From all of us at True Blue Warriors.

Suspect death unconfirmed - awaiting forensics examinations - We will update when the information is officially released - the man believed to be behind all of this violence is Suspected spree killer Christopher Jordan Dorner - had been charged with three counts of attempted murder against three police officers and the murder of a fourth police officer - a no-bail warrant for Dorner’s arrest has also been issued. These charges stem from the incidents leading up to the killing of Detective MacKay, though it is not even confirmed that Dorner is the one who killed our Brother. Dorner is also the suspect in two additional murders, including that of a USC-DPS Patrol Officer, though warrants had not yet been issued regarding these deaths, nor on the violence taken against an 83 year old man by the same suspect.

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Just so you have a face to put with the name: Jeremiah MacKay, SBSD

If you have misinterpreted something I have stated to imply I, in any way, condoned what dorner did - please do point it out to me. I never stated that...maybe you did? Maybe you thought it??? See how that wears??

Dream, I find it beyond offensive that you would assign such a “sentiment” (support for a murderer) to me – and do so completely unfounded. Very tiny children are able to process the concept of unrelated events. I REALLY have a problem w someone that is not able to comprehend this basic concept accusing me of “supporting” a murderer b/c I questioned UNRELATED events. Seven or eight officers (not the entire lapd police force, the entire population of California, or the planet) at two separate geographic location on two separate occasions (i.e., separated by time and space) fired on two separate and unrelated vehicles – neither of which matched the make or model of the one they sought. Now, if you confuse questioning the actions of the 7-8 (guestimate) officer’s and their superiors (not all officers, not all humans, not all California residents, not all chinchillas on the continent, just those involved in those two separate incidents) - with supporting Dorner, then you are either looking for someone w that opinion to argue with, or unable to process the fact that the two events (dorner’s murdering rampage and the officers that fired on innocent citizen’s in their vehicles) are NOT related.

If you actually confuse the observation that it is ironic that the accusations that dorner made 4 YEARS ago involved excessive force, and different sets of officers in two separate incidents fired on random vehicles during the recent manhunt for Dorner – as “supporting” this man’s (or any murderer’s) actions, then ditto above. Furthermore, if you confuse questioning whether he was guilty of making false statement FOUR years ago w “supporting murder”, then - by that logic, you would have known he was murderer 4 years ago and are guilty of not having notified the appropriate authorities. If time or space doesn’t exist to separate events – then he would have necessarily been a murderer 4 years ago. HOWEVER, for those that do acknowledge that time and space exist, the two (whether he made false statements 4 years ago, and his recent murdering rampage) are NOT RELATED. The ONLY place those two things were ever related was in Dorner’s mind – a psychopath. I clearly stated nothing justifies his actions, which goes w/o saying – however, I guess you chose to miss that statement, or confused it w “support”.

Sorry for your loss and that of the family Dream. May he Rest in peace.

Dreamcatcher, THIS officer salutes you.

I get so heartsick when being confronted with those who "armchair quarterback" while posting from the protection of an anonymous username.

Hindsight is always 20/20.

Thank you Allison. Because I know this is a hot button for me, I went back and read all the posts on this again. I still haven't changed my first impression. Ignorance is bliss and some folks are already in Heaven. Perhaps some judicious Aerial spraying of Prozac would help.