obamacare in review

Oh, good grief - they would do the same thing they do now...Medicaid and free health programs in free clinics, emergency rooms, and charity hospitals. How many people do you honestly know - honestly - that can't get medical care? The number is insignificant.

That is not to say our system is as good or efficient as it should be. Sure, a few people here and there may fall through the cracks, and our system begets high prices, but the exaggerations made by Obamacare supporters (that will eventually realize their error) are just absurd...

And "they" are surprised by that, and "we" aren't...

Let's not be naive...THERE IS A REASON NO ONE IN CONGRESS WAS PERMITTED TO READ THE LEGISLATION BEFORE THE DEMOCRATS PASSED IT. Even the rank and file Democrats would not have passed it if they had been able to read it first. I obviously am Republican, and don't support Democrats, but I will give them that much credit. They just took Obama, Reid, and Pelosi's deception hook, line, and sinker, and although I won't be around, history will be laughing at them for generations to come...


Liberal politics in action...Bwahahaha...

You have obviously never been on Medicaid or tried to get "free care". And, FYI the number is not insignificant, it may be where you live, but it sure is not where I am.

Not permitted to read it? It was posted on line before the vote so the PUBLIC could read it.

Umm, yeah. It was posted but over 2000 pages of legislative lawyer speak. It was not posted in time for an in depth analysis of what was there and that was done on purpose.

If I remember the numbers from the debate when you sifted through all the chaff there was less then 10 milliion truly without insurance. Buying that 10 million a decent health insurance would of been cheaper for the taxpayers than Obamacare. IE, there were other fixes to medical we could of done other than nationalize healthcare.

I say sift through the chaff because the largest group of un insured were those who opted out of insurance coverage by their employer. Another large section of those not insured were illegal aliens, rather than give them insurance send them packing home.

You are correct. Even when I was dirt poor with a pregnant wife I did not seek any type of assistance. Where I come from we have both pride and character and take care of ourselves.

As to what is insignificant, I guess it depends upon one's point of view. Currently an estimated 16.3% of the population is uninsured (without private insurance or medicare or medicaid). 37% of that 16.3% make over $50K/year and can afford insurance but choose not to get it. Another 12% of the uninsured that make less than $50K are eligible for group coverage at work at cheap prices and choose not to take it. That leaves 8.3% of the population. About 4% of the population receives care at free clinics and charity hospitals. That leaves 4.3% of the population. There are 1.3 million veterans under 65 that use VA medical and hospital facilities - that leaves 3.9% of the population. There are several other categories that are smaller...for example many people are eligible for medicaid and other programs and do not take advantage of them, and the very wealthy sometimes self insure. I cannot find reliable numbers on these smaller groups, so will just assume a small figure similar to the VA .4%, which leaves about 3.5% of the population that can potentially fall through the cracks - about 11 million people.

I am doing this "on-the-fly", and in coming up with 3% of the population, roughly 11 million people, I would probably have to back off the "insignificant" and change it to "small", as 3% of the population is statistically small, although large in actual numbers. So - one point for you. However, keep in mind that I am using actual numbers. Anyone that both does not have access to health insurance and (truly) cannot afford their own still has access to the charity care - they just aren't included in the numbers, most likely because they didn't have need for health care...

Does anyone even know who wrote Obamacare? I know it didn't magically drop from heaven one night onto the desks of our elected officials, so who, or what committee, wrote it? If no one was going to read it, why not have those who wrote it stand before congress and explain it.

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See, I don't know…I also found this (from article at
Appointments and Resignations - Author of Obamacare Blueprint Rewarded with Job at Johnson & Johnson - AllGov - News)

"Elizabeth “Liz” Fowler was chief health policy counsel to U.S. Senator Max Baucus (D-Montana), who helped spearhead the charge for healthcare reform on Capitol Hill. While Baucus was often the public face during the legislative battle, it was Fowler who actually drafted the mammoth plan that came to be known as “Obamacare.”

I have no doubt that a lot of people's fingerprints are on the bill, but am amazed that it is proving very difficult to find out whose…especially since it has already passed! You'd think those who wrote it would be proud of it and want their involvement known…but this doesn't seem to be the case.