Senate Panel - Background Checks ?

RegalCharm · 03-14-2013, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by dbarabians

Those laws are not being enforced and the case you just mentioned along with numerous others in which a mentally unstable person bought the rifle or rifles and ammunition without any problem.
Guns are used by people to kill other people.
We limit your ability to obtain chemicals, medication, and other things deemed harmful or have the potential to be abused. IMO certain firearms should be too.
If the system is not working to prevent more mass shootings then reform is needed. Shalom

There YOU said it in the first 6 words of your post.
Lets see conn shooter took the guns from his mother after he
Shot her. The one who shot the firemen had his gun bought by his
Girlfriend for him (against the law) Also he beat his grandmother
To death with a hammer. He should have never been released from
Prison in the first place.

Limit chemicals, medication, and other things harmful or abused,
Yea the war on Drugs is really working too. Huh. It is not the system
That isn't working, it is the people who are running the systems
Not enforcing current laws. The 8th admendment should be
Enforced again. Hanging is not a cruel or unusual punishment.

dbarabians · 03-14-2013, 09:40 PM

Sex offenders and child molesters are monitored very well to ensure they are not around children. Why can't we do the same for those with mental illnes and Have a tendency to become violent? Have everyone take a pysc eval before they can pick up the weapon they bought and add it to the background check. Sounds like a winner to me.
We need to put the safety of the general public before the desire of an individual to own a gun.
While some states are trying to find a solution My State Texas has elected officials that want to make it easier to obtain a gun.
More than 100 bills were filed this session that should make the gun lobby and NRA very proud. With the current spat of gun violence this makes no sense,
Unless your an elected official and trying to get some donations and credibility from the gun lobby for your next election. Shalom

gogaited · 03-14-2013, 10:46 PM

Not one more infringement.

gogaited · 03-14-2013, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by dbarabians

NO one is trying to take anyones gun away from them. That bogus claim is a scare tactic the NRA made up. Anyone who believes that is a "sheeple" IMO.
Allow me to cite an example of why private gun sales need some oversight. I have recently relocated closer to Dallas while the house at the farm is renovated and repaired. I own 30 acres and am surrounded by other houses. One of my nieghbors likes to drink and then shoot his rifle. Now if there were no houses or one of my pastures with horses located in the direction he aims I may not have a problem. He shoots at an embankment with a high powered rifle. This man is an ex cop who was relieved of duty because he pulled a pistol on his then wife during an arguement more than once. He cannot pass a background check but brags about buying guns from private individuals. Would you feel safe?
Now I do not see how any law enforcement agency can enforce a law like this but can clearly see the loop hole and potential danger our current system turns a blind eye to. Shalom

That's funny, because I see the sheeple as the ones that disregard history and think that THIS TIME, more infringements, registration and oppressive laws wont lead to confiscation and complete full blown communism. If some people are so determined to live in a gun free utopia, move to North Korea and leave the rest of us the hell alone.

dbarabians · 03-14-2013, 10:55 PM

Ask the Giffords if its worth it and how their lives have changed. Would you still think the same if you are your spouse was the victim? Shalom

gogaited · 03-14-2013, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by dbarabians

Regalcharm since he is no longer on probation there is no list a police officfer can access to determine that he might be a danger to society. Remember I live in Texas one of the states with the easiest access to gunownership in this country/
I will defend anyones right to own a weapon that is not a danger to society until I draw my last breathe. Allow me to assure you of that fact.
My point is there are far too many ways to obtain a firearm and as many as you want with little to no oversight.
We are not discussing taking away or denying most people their constitutional right . A small minority of people would be affected/ If it could save lives why not even discuss it? That's the part that I really don't understand. Especially in light of the violence we are seeing far too often. Something has to change/
Those who are resisiting any reform are failing to take into consideration the safety of the general public and law enforcement personnel.
NO one IMO ever needs to own an assualt rifle unless you are in a combat zone and then only as long as you are deployed there.
Off to have some minor surgery today might be able to post a reply later after the stuff they knock you out with wears off. Shalom

I don't have to prove a "need' to exercise my rights. And stop with the assault rifle BS. Have you SEEN the gangs of ferals running amuck? And it's going to be hellacious when the economy completely collapses. And these insane, regressive people tell me I don't "need" the ability to shoot 20, 30 rounds? I don't see THEM giving up their guns and security details paid for by US. Cars kill a heck of a lot more people than guns, where's the "commonsense" push to outlaw cars? If we can save just "one...." That's because standing up to the treasonous, tyrannical government with a car is not going to work. No, it's the guns they are worried about. And they don't give a darn about any schoolkids.

dbarabians · 03-14-2013, 11:22 PM

Cars do indeed kill more people. However you have to register that car, have insurance coverage, have it inspected, and get a permit to drive one. Do you think those are infringements?
I think you just made my point. A potentially dangerous object does need some sort of regulation.
I am not going to stop with the Assault rifle BS as you call it. I am entitled to my opinion as is everyone else here. Or did you forget that constitutional right?
I respect everyones opinions all I ask is the same in return. Shalom

Allison Finch · 03-15-2013, 01:13 AM

I hate to say it, but sometimes Gogaited sounds as repressive as the governments she rails against.

Missy May · 03-15-2013, 01:25 AM

I think congress has proven to be potentially dangerous. This action will save us all from law abiding citizens that are contemplating murder, or from criminals that respect gun laws?

And, then there the question...if someone leaves a fellow citizen their gun collection - they can't take legal possession until??? And, where does this property go in the mean time? Okie dokey.

Missy May · 03-15-2013, 01:44 AM

Well, if Harvard studies are to be believed, then there is no correlation what-so-ever between gun ownership and murder rates. So, what exaclty will the cost/expense of this bill yield? If cost/expense is not a concern, then the argument has done left reality.

Harvard Study: Gun Control Is Counterproductive | The American Civil Rights Union

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