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        03-15-2013, 04:49 PM
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    Cars do indeed kill more people. However you have to register that car, have insurance coverage, have it inspected, and get a permit to drive one. Do you think those are infringements?
    I think you just made my point. A potentially dangerous object does need some sort of regulation.
    I am not going to stop with the Assault rifle BS as you call it. I am entitled to my opinion as is everyone else here. Or did you forget that constitutional right?
    I respect everyones opinions all I ask is the same in return. Shalom
    Cars aren't a right in the constitution. Guns are.
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        03-15-2013, 04:52 PM
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    The constitutional might give the right to bear arms but it does not specify which. Do individuals have the right to bear tank? Surface to air missiles? N bombs? There is an element of common sense in what we allow into the hands of civilians.
         
        03-15-2013, 04:54 PM
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    Ask the Giffords if its worth it and how their lives have changed. Would you still think the same if you are your spouse was the victim? Shalom
    Yes, I would. Some statistical aberration, while a tragedy, is not grounds for depriving me of my rights. And if it happened to me, I would not be hypocritically trying to abrogate someone else's rights while buying the same gun I am railing against.

    And my comment about stopping the "assault rifle" BS is aimed at the fact that there is not "assault rifle" "problem", not your right to speak. Just educate yourself on the false terms the propaganda arm of the party uses to inflame and scare. I am the last one that would tell someone to shut up, I just didn't word it correctly. I'm sorry for that.
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        03-15-2013, 05:02 PM
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    the constitutional might give the right to bear arms but it does not specify which. Do individuals have the right to bear tank? Surface to air missiles? N bombs? There is an element of common sense in what we allow into the hands of civilians.
    There shouldn't be. How can we fight a tyrannical government with tanks and real assault weapons with slingshots and pea shooters?

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        03-15-2013, 05:19 PM
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    In our 235 years as a country we have not had an insurrection of citizens that owned guns. People used to keep a shotgun over their fireplace, and when it was common there were not lots of lots of children being shot or shooting innocent people, which is the impetus this time, for this legislation.
    Tyrannical governments put you on a registration list so that if you disagree with them they can rid themselves of you. In this case, that means ME, bc I own guns and I disagree with the current administration.
    I am very glad that we have a handful of people in Washington that are standing up and saying, "No" to these bullies. If this was SOOO important, why didn't the Obama Administration and Diane Feinstein make it a top priority in 2009?
    Consider, if you just moved into a new place, wouldn't you have a list of the most important things to do...in order?
    THIS IS PURELY POLITICAL. Many people, including my 86yo mother are afraid of guns. I am a dead shot, but I've never shot as many practice bullets as my DH has.
    Driving is a privilege, but my right to defend myself is the 2nd amendment in the US Constitution--not the ship, but the document. The document doesn't say I need a firearm to be "armed" and this is to protect myself from a tyrannical government. They WROTE it this way bc King George had sent his soldiers to disarm the colonists at Lexington. A LOT of people don't remember this. =/
    I discovered when my DH and I did CW Reeanacting (1985-2011) that my pistol was sometimes empty but my saber was always loaded.
    Gun owners are having a very hard time finding bullets bc the # of American gun owners is RISING every day, every week, and every month. It is a movement. Americans are waking up. It takes 15 minutes or more for a policeman to respond, IF you can call in an emergency, IF they are close enough, IF you are not already a hostage or dead. Criminals will NEVER follow the law. If you don't want to defend yourself or your loved ones, oh, well, too bad. I am fighting the people who have their own private ARMED security from taking away MY protection, and I will fight YOU if you try to take away my guns.
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        03-15-2013, 05:20 PM
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    Cars do require all the insurance (not that they pay), licensing, tests, etc... YET PEOPLE ARE STILL KILLED BY THEM! Hmmm?
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        03-15-2013, 05:26 PM
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    Cars do require all the insurance (not that they pay), licensing, tests, etc... YET PEOPLE ARE STILL KILLED BY THEM! Hmmm?
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    Yes and Alcohols kills 75,000 a year in the US, no one needs a license, test, background checks or insurance to Drink it, you only need to be 21

    But what would Washington Politicians do if most of them could not be in a drunk stupor most of the time, at least they Vote on Laws like they are

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        03-15-2013, 07:21 PM
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    Originally Posted by tinyliny    
    the constitutional might give the right to bear arms but it does not specify which. Do individuals have the right to bear tank? Surface to air missiles? N bombs? There is an element of common sense in what we allow into the hands of civilians.
    This works both ways. That is to say, there are many, many things in the common household that can be used to construct lethal weapons. Should the private ownership of all things, therefor, be regulated or require background check and a fee to buy, give or sell, etc.,.? So, yes - there should be an element of logic as to what arms private citizens have the right to bear and/or sell/purchase.
         
        03-15-2013, 07:24 PM
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    Green Broke
    Congress treats the risk associated w motor vehicles as acceptable. This well establishes that the number of deaths is of no importance. In some states illegals can get a driver's license. So much for "back ground checks".
         
        03-16-2013, 02:44 AM
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    Green Broke
    Gogaited you might have worded the statement about the Assualt rifles wrongly or I might have misunderstood it. Either way there are no hard feelings. Shalom
         

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