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        03-05-2013, 10:47 PM
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    This video put things into perspective for me. Many here don't want to know, don't care to know, or simply would rather say things are just fine. You don't have to be stamped with the label "socialist" to know things really are broken in this country.

    Wealth Inequality in America - YouTube
         
        03-06-2013, 06:15 AM
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    Originally Posted by Allison Finch    
    This video put things into perspective for me. Many here don't want to know, don't care to know, or simply would rather say things are just fine. You don't have to be stamped with the label "socialist" to know things really are broken in this country.

    Wealth Inequality in America - YouTube
    So what is your answer?

    Steal from the rich and give to the poor?

    Teach the poor that they can have more money if they would stay in school, work for a living, not have 6 kids before they are 21?

    Anyone have another answer ?


    I am not sure what that video represents besides wealth envy, bitterness, jealousy, etc.
    There has always been the Rich and the Poor, there always will be unless we have Socialism or near Socialism.

    But, Even in Socialism no one is happy, you still have divisions.
    While everyone is paid the same, has the same house, same car, etc.... the fact is Someone has to Sit in the Air-conditioned Office and answer the phone and someone has to Shovel the Dung at the Waste Treatment Plant.
    Life is not fair, no matter what you do or try to do!!

    Contrary to some believes, people have a choice, they have opportunity, they have desire and a chance to succeed.
    While everyone may not be a Sports Star or a CEO and make 25 million a year, they have a Chance to make a Decent Wage.
    But the reality is they do not use that chance!

    The Top 9 of Ten highest Paid professions are Doctors as a whole, number 9 on the list is CEO, the others are all Doctors

    So contrary to many beliefs, the Rich are not born with the silver spoon, the go to school, actually stay in school, work had and make something of their life.

    Look at Obama, he was not born with a Silver Spoon, he applied himself, went to school and became President.

    But most people want to whine and cry and say they hate the Rich, they have it so easy.
    I say GET off your lazy butt, quit being a baby and make something of your life, jealousy, laziness and envy will only DESTROY you and Bankrupt the Country.

    Rant over.


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        03-06-2013, 09:09 AM
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    Originally Posted by SouthernTrailsGA    
    Teach the poor that they can have more money if they would stay in school, work for a living, not have 6 kids before they are 21?
    If you honestly think that all the poor quit school, don't work for a living, and have 6 kids before they are 21, then I suspect you are part of the problem.

    I've never understood how some people can rant about the how the poor don't "work for a living" and then, almost in the same breath, rant about the loss of jobs and how Obama isn't doing anything to create jobs to lower the unemployment rate...

    There are good, honest, hard working people that either don't have jobs, or more likely, have extremely low paying jobs.... I'm sure you've heard of the "working poor"...a third of the workers in the US have jobs that pay twice below the poverty line for a family of 3 (not 6); half of the jobs in the US pay below the poverty line for a family of four.

    We need more high paying jobs. There aren't enough of them in our current economy. I'll be the first to admit the current administration (congress included) has not done enough to get this done. However, the ever-growing number of people working in poverty has stayed level since 2010. A minor victory, but we need to do more.

    True, there will always be the rich and the poor. But that gap has gotten worse than it has been in over 40 years. More money in the hands of the rich should mean more money in everyone's pocket, if trickle down actually worked; IMO, this is clear evidence it does not.
         
        03-06-2013, 11:20 AM
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    Originally Posted by RedHorseRidge    
    If you honestly think that all the poor quit school, don't work for a living, and have 6 kids before they are 21, then I suspect you are part of the problem.

    I've never understood how some people can rant about the how the poor don't "work for a living" and then, almost in the same breath, rant about the loss of jobs and how Obama isn't doing anything to create jobs to lower the unemployment rate...
    What breath did I say Obama has done nothing? Actually I was praising him in my post. But some like to put words in other peoples mouth

    I never understood why some people are always blaming the Rich for our problems and are always promoting Envy and Jealousy.

    My statement was one of several choices, maybe I should have said OR instead of a comma.
    Stay in School - how many poor quit school or never go to college?
    Work for a living - How many poor are able bodied and never worked a day in their life or maybe only work every once in a while?
    Not have 6 kids - How many poor have kids they cannot afford?

    Part of the Post was also; Obama came from what most would say unprivileged upbringing and became President. The US is still the land of opportunity if you want it to be

    As far as trickle down, that is over used and misunderstood.

    Let me ask one thing: If the Rich could not buy their Toys, how many jobs would be gone?

    That 200k Airplane or 5 Million Dollar Airplane, that Million Dollar House, The Fancy Restaurant, Fancy Cars, Golf Course, 2nd Home, Tennis Court, Expensive Office Building..... they all have one thing in common.... They provide Jobs for People to manufacture or work at pleasing those awful Rich... So is Trickle Down a bad phrase?..... no, only to the those that have an ulterior motive.

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        03-06-2013, 12:18 PM
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    [quote=SouthernTrailsGA;1925214]What breath did I say Obama has done nothing? ]

    I never said you said this... it just sturck me how many people do talk about the poor being poor because they don't work, yet rant on Obama because there are no jobs...

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    Stay in School - how many poor quit school or never go to college?
    As a college professor I'll be the first to say college isn't for everyone. But, yes, there are a few that never graduate high school. However, I know that the percentage of people graduating from high school has steadily increased over the past few years, and I know the majority of people on welfare have at least a high school degree...but I agree education of some kind is very important in upping one's chances of getting a higher paying job.

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    Work for a living - How many poor are able bodied and never worked a day in their life or maybe only work every once in a while?
    Not that many. Many are the working poor, as I said before.

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    Not have 6 kids - How many poor have kids they cannot afford?
    And how many of those poor didn't know they were going to be poor until after they had those kids? There are some people that believe people on welfare continue to have kids to get more welfare. It's interesting to look at the stats... the average family receiving aid has roughly 1.9 kids. I have no doubt there are a few people out there having kids to get that extra $$$.... but I also have no doubt that is the exception rather than the rule.

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    Let me ask one thing: If the Rich could not buy their Toys, how many jobs would be gone?
    I'm sure there would be some. But just think of the other jobs that could be created if more people could buy "normal" things...

    If history has taught us anything, it is that the greater the wealth of a nation becomes concentrated in fewer and fewer hands, the more that nation's economy grinds to a halt. In a capitalist economy, the true job creators are the middle class consumers. Our best economic growth has been in periods when the middle class received the majority of the nation's total income.
         

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