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    05-20-2013, 04:38 PM
  #31
Foal
She has both the red mineral and a salt block in the round pen already. She has shelter, a metal building in the shady part of the round pen. It was actually a storage shed with a raised floor but with just metal strips on the bottom so we put down plyboard to make a real floor and put the large pine shavings/chips in. She stands in it which surprises me since I have to drag Homer in the barn even in bad weather. She has been drinking so no worries there. I will get some applesause and mix a little RB in and see if she will eat that.
*Vet finally called back and said that I should try introducing her and Homer together without the horses around. She does not think he will hurt her but there is always a chance especially if HIS herd is around. That never occured to me because the horses went to the other side of the pasture. Anyway she thinks it would be better to introduce them now, before she gets further along in her pregnancy So the plan for now is to just take her down in the afternoons by herself so she can get grass and get used to the pasture and then try again this weekend to let them be together without the horses. I worry she may have the baby down there but since they normally have the babies at night and I bring all up for the night. I am hoping that wont happen. My other option is to just keep her penned up all the time but Vet thinks it would be better for the baby if Homer bonds with Sugar before hand. Forgot to ask her about the dirt
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    05-21-2013, 02:59 PM
  #32
Foal
Thank you Endiku... The applesauce worked like a charm. Now she is eating her RB so I feel much better.
     
    05-21-2013, 03:35 PM
  #33
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Fantastic! I'm glad I could be of help. Once you feel comfortable, you can weak down the applesauce (make sure you're getting non sweetened. A little sugar won't hurt, a lot might cause some issues if its used consistently) and add more RB. She'll get used to it ^_^

That's actually how I'm convincing the filly I care for that beet pulp is food. Applesauce! Lol.

For the record, I don't think you're a bad mom at all. Horses (and donkeys) throw us difficult situations sometimes, and from the sounds of it, I don't think you're doing half bad. She has donkey friendly food unlike when she was getting sweet feed, shelter, someone to doctor her, and a place to foal safely. Sounds pretty darned good to me!
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    05-21-2013, 03:53 PM
  #34
Foal
Oh yes, I got the unsweetened..Starting her real slow on the RB since she really has not eaten hardly any of it yet and apparently has never had it before. Mixed with 3 tbs applesause last night and this am. Once I get her up to speed on the RB will start reducing the applesause. My horses get 1lb total RB per day and Homer gets maybe a total of 1/3 lb so based on weight she would get even less. However not sure if she should have more while prego. Guess I need to check the bag and see if it mentions anything about that. Do you know if she should get more. Not right away of course but once we work up to it, Do you think she should get more because of carrying the baby? I want to do what is good for her but not make her fat. Apparently she was fat at one time because she has the fat roll on her neck.
     
    05-21-2013, 04:03 PM
  #35
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Great! Sounds like you're doing everything right so far. I'm not 100% about how much RB to give a pregnant donkey so you might want to ask your vet for a recommendation if the bag doesn't say anything, but I'd say getting her up to 1/3 of a pound (that's about a cup and a half right?) for now will be good. She'll need to build herself up to be ready for when the foal drops. The lactation stage is when most girls start losing condition. I'd give her free choice hay while she's lactating, and start decreasing it to maybe just a cup later when you're weaning.

Eating RB is probably a big change for her. She went from pretty much eating candy every day to eating veggies, and she probably isn't too fond of the taste yet. That's where the applesauce helps. The naturally appealing flavor and fructose in it is a little closer to what she's used to, and makes for a great transition element. Works great for crushed pills and powder supplements if you ever need those, too.

What kind of shape are her hooves in? If she was fat before, you might want to see if your farrier can find any signs of founder in her when he next comes out. Hopefully she hasn't but if she has, you'll need a plan of action to keep her from foundering again and to potentially do corrective trimming as well. Donkey feet are very hardy and donkeys are the long suffering sort, so they usually won't let you know if they're hurting until its severe.
     
    05-21-2013, 04:20 PM
  #36
Foal
Suprising enough her feet "look" real good One of her back feet is a little long but not near as bad as some I have seen. My farrier is due week after next and I will have him trim her and do a good check to see if she has any issues that need to be addressed.
Thank you so much for all your help and support.
     
    05-22-2013, 07:58 AM
  #37
Foal
Well Sugar is back to not eating anything but some hay. Hubby fed up for me last night as I worked late and he put more grain than applesause so Sugar figured out what the deal was. Tried this am with tiny bit of RB and 3 tbs applesause but no go. Gave her a couple of carrots last night while medicating her legs but still worried that she is not getting what she needs. Round pen is now out of grass so will be putting her in the back yard in the pm so she can get grass every day until we can get her in the herd this weekend. Thank goodness it is a 4 day weekend for me. Hopefully we can do more introductions with Homer and by the end of the weekend she can go to the pasture during the day for grass.
*Any ideas on what she will eat that is good for her until we can get her on grass?
     
    05-22-2013, 03:05 PM
  #38
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Bummer :/ I forget sometimes how smart donkeys are!

Maybe if you're set on introducing them, introducing Homer into HER territory rather than her into HIS (the pasture), and introducing the horses to her one at a time would be a better idea. Less chance of him or the others getting all defensive.

Try some grass hay pellets if you can get them. In my area its $12 for a 40lb bag. Don't get alfalfa though, just timothy. Wet them a little bit, and try feeding them to her. I really think she'll be just fine on hay and what grass you can give her, though. If you feed her a grain, go with something that is low in sugar and protein content. This is the only donkey suppliment I could find but it doesnt have a price on the page. Kohnke's Own Horse Health Care

Purine Miniature Horse and Pony feed might be ok since it is formulated for minis who have similar (but not the same) nutritional needs as a donkey. I'd only feed 1 - 1 1/2 lbs and theres no guarentee she'll eat it...its low in sugar as are all feeds that are suitable for her.
     
    05-22-2013, 03:26 PM
  #39
Foal
Yep, she is a smart little cookie..
Actually it is not that I am set on introducing them, it is that the options are either she spend the rest of her life in a round pen with no grass, or I have to get rid of her. I already tried to give her back to the lady that sold her to me for free but she would not take her as she is downsizing. If I find her another home it seems like it would just be more stress on her. The Vet (she owns donkey's and mules) said it is better to introduce them now before she gets further along in her pregnancy. I asked the Vet about introducing them in the round pen or even the paddock without the horses but she said a bigger area would be safer. Also to do it on a warm day vs a chilly or windy day and not after a rain in case she would slip and fall. Not at all worried about the horses as when I put her in the pasture before they could care less. The Vet said that with the horses around Homer will be more protective so to try introduction in the pasture without the horses. We will be there to intervene again.
Of course if Homer does not bond with her, she will stay in the round pen until after the baby is born and I will have to find them another home.
     

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