Thanks everyone for the nice comments about my mules. They are pretty special to me and a pleasure to own. They are definitely versitile. Can't beat their sure footedness in the mountains. Pretty much anything you know about horses, it is the exact opposite for mules!! (As far as training and out smarting) You would have to get up pretty early in the morning and pack a big lunch if you think you are going to out smart a mule very easily!!