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post #1 of 5 Old 04-26-2013, 01:54 AM Thread Starter
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2 fear-based aggressive pits meet

Alright so I have the other thread about my pit mix being fear aggressive towards other dogs. Tonight she met another..

Well my roommate's parents have a dog who is pretty much the exact same as my dog. Mine is 2yo, hers (Ellie) is 3yo, so still both pups. Ellie is coming to stay with us for a few days while her dad is in town.

We (unintentionally) had them meet through the sliding glass door, where they both kinda snapped at each other and barked- a lot. We had them on leashes walking around each other outside for a while and they both went crazy barking, there was no calming them down.

Eventually we brought them in the house. Ellie managed to pull away and since Sadie is usually nicer off the leash, we let them sniff noses, but they both growled a little so we pulled them apart. Ellie was locked in my roommate's bedroom with her 2 dogs and we sat outside with Sadie until they both got quiet while sniffing under the door. We took them into the living room, both on leashes, and sat across the room from each other. They whimpered at first wanting to play but soon enough calmed down and were okay being near each other but not touching.

Tomorrow we want to let them actually loose to try to play together. They're both great with other dogs once you get past the initial meeting and they get used to each other. Ellie will be staying with us until next Wednesday, so we want them to get along and be okay with each other as soon as we can. I honestly think they'll be best friends once they're both comfortable. I would just love some suggestions on the best way to go about reintroducing them tomorrow! I think we're going to take them to the dog park (neutral ground) and see how they do there..
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I posted information on exactly what you are looking for on your other thread, in regards to how to properly introduce the dogs, how to welcome the new one into your home, etc. Did you go over that information?

Now that they were introduced incorrectly, you will probably have a much harder time making them "okay" with eachother as first impressions are everything.

If you didn't read it, please go to the link I posted and check out those pages. Also, I do not recommend using a dog park as "neutral" grounds. While a dog park may be "neutral" to your dog and the new dog, it has TONS of smells of other dogs and other dogs may be present, both factors which could drastically worsen your situation.

Furthermore, right now, playing should not be the goal. The goal should be for them to be OKAY with eachother's presence and not reacting negatively to eachother's behavior. If they DO end up playing in a balanced, stable, and non-problematic manner then that is GREAT, but start small and take baby steps to get there.

The situation of the new dog coming into your house may not have been preventable, but it really is NOT a good idea to socialize a fearful, anxious, aggressive, or dominant dog with another dog that shares that same issue. That is asking for more trouble. It would be best to find balanced, calm, submissive, and/or neutral dogs who will not react when your dog does. Right now, your dog and the new dog are feeding off of eachother's issues.
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They both mean well and aren't just aggressive, just a little anxious at first. With a little time near each other but not touching it seemed to really calm them both down. We have no other "neutral" grounds where we can take them because Ellie does not do well off the leash. Otherwise the beach or barn or something would work.

This morning we did take them to the dog park. They got to see each other in the cars at the house before we left, and they quickly calmed down seeing/smelling each other but not touching. I let Sadie out first at the dog park since I got there first, so she walked around smelling everything for a minute. When Ellie got there and was turned loose, they smelled each other for a minute then went their separate ways. They soon started chasing each other around (playfully) and VERY quickly wore themselves out! We brought them back home when they seemed happy and tired enough.

As soon as we got home they even shared the water bowl to get a drink! I tried getting a picture but was too late.. They have now been running around the house playing together for the last 30 minutes and are happy as can be! I sat on the couch and called Sadie up only to have Ellie jump up lol. So Sadie took the other side and they put their heads on my lap and were licking each other. Had I mentioned that Sadie is a big licker?! She licks you, cabinets, floors, anything she can reach. And Ellie is the same way. So they've been licking each others faces all day! Haha. It's definitely been a successful morning of them being introduced!
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These are 2 fully mature female "pit bull" type dogs. I think it is great that you are trying to introduce the two, but please do not be discouraged if they do not become "friends". If they do tolerate each other, (which I am assuming will be the best case scenario in this situation) be sure to NEVER leave them unsupervised. By unsupervised, I mean, never take your eyes off of them or allow them to be any further from you than arm distance. It only takes one scuffle for each to decide they will not tolerate each other or even any other dogs again. I certainly hope things go how you want though. Good luck.

**Just fully read your last post. I am glad they are tolerating each other! :)
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These are 2 fully mature female "pit bull" type dogs. I think it is great that you are trying to introduce the two, but please do not be discouraged if they do not become "friends". If they do tolerate each other, (which I am assuming will be the best case scenario in this situation) be sure to NEVER leave them unsupervised. By unsupervised, I mean, never take your eyes off of them or allow them to be any further from you than arm distance. It only takes one scuffle for each to decide they will not tolerate each other or even any other dogs again. I certainly hope things go how you want though. Good luck.

**Just fully read your last post. I am glad they are tolerating each other! :)
We will definitely not be leaving them unsupervised! They had little sounds here and there when they got too in each others faces but it was more of warnings to back off than them actually doing anything. I really think they are both happy to have a friend with as much energy to play with!

Although there are a ton of smells at the dog park, at times they did separate to walk around and smell. So that made us feel better that they weren't 100% focused on each other and were happy to do their own thing for a little while. They played HARD for a while at home and we just had to separate them to let them sleep haha. Sadie is out cold right now..
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