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post #101 of 101 Old 06-22-2014, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by coffeeaddict View Post
Always, smaller eyes (pig eyes) are more desirable for a lot of judges/breeders because they think it gives the dog better expression, makes them look sweeter.

Personally, I hate a small pig eye on a Collie and would never breed for it. I like Cas' eyes just fine, though it would be nice if everyone else wasn't aiming for smaller eyes because then he and others like him just stick out.

Indy, I agree about taping the ears. It should be something that comes natural and doesn't require a roll of duct tape and a can of starter fluid to accomplish.
Hi! I'm new to the Horse Forum, and this older discussion about Collies (great traditional farm dog!) caught my eye. By way of a brief introduction zi'm a longtime Collie trainer and trialer. Having had them since 1969. 42+ year member of our parent organization the Collie Club of America, and
Founder of the American Working Collie Association.

Actually, small eyes, whether piggy or not, are highly undesirable. Our standard asks for a medium sized eye, almond shape, and set in such a way as to help in his work as a herding dog. They have great peripheral vision, anong other things. The reason you're seeing a number of small eyes is that some people take the excessive notion -- supposed to have medium sized eyes? Well, gosh darn I'll try for a smaller eye to see if it makes it prettier. Doesn't make sense, does it? This can easily lead to microphthalmia and it's issues. Look at coat - this is historically a very old herding breed (and they still work though not as frequently or as obsessively as the Border Collie, his cousin), it was intended to be a good, well fitting coat to help protect the long-haired version (Rough-coated) of our Scotch breed in the severe weather of the Highlands. The Short-haired version (Smooth coated) worked more often in the Lowlands and so only needed a tight-fitting double jacket of short hair. With the Roughs,show breeders tend to want more of a good thing and gave bred for huge coats. Beautiful to look at, but it's not correct -- it's a hindrance in brush, hard for pet owners to maintain. As in any hobby, some people get carried away -- look at the beautiful Arabian? Some heads have become excessive. Horses such as Gyosy Vanners? I LOVE the long manes, etc. But, as with all things moderation should be key.

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Cindy M. Dorsten
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