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post #1 of 13 Old 06-28-2012, 07:44 PM Thread Starter
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Angry Grrrr, vet trip and not so happy.....

So I took my Little westie named Lil to the vet clinic today because she has an itchy red rash on her tummy and we started finding a large amt of ticks on her. We use frontline for ticks and fleas ( we got it at the vets office) and she is groomed approximately every 3-4 weeks, with us bumping her up to 2-3 weeks because she was so itchy and it always seemed worse when she was out all day. She was last boarded at the vet less than 3 weeks ago and I asked them to groom her then. She was still itchy so I took her to groomer at petsmart and had them bathe again. My vet just called to say they pulled a large amt of seed ticks off her and she has fleas. I am just so upset, we are diligent with her flea and tick meds AND she has been groomed at both the clinic and her regular groomer. I mentioned itches to both places and asked if they could find anything.......could she have picked them up during her last stay at the vet for boarding? Does this happen often? Anyone use anything better for fleas and ticks?

Sorry for the long post, just not used to my Lil one having problems, it's usually the horse...lol
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post #2 of 13 Old 06-28-2012, 08:00 PM
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I used to work at a doggie day care, with a small grooming salon and we were very thorough! Fleas and ticks wouldn't have had the chance to breed and build a nest and we definitely would have noticed it and reported it..

But on the other hand, fleas are getting immune to some of the flea/tick collars, plus it's summer so they are an abundance of parasites.

Hope your pooch feels better soon.. that made me feel all creepy crawly just reading about her woe!

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post #3 of 13 Old 06-28-2012, 08:18 PM Thread Starter
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Yes, I am just so frustrated, I specifically went in for her itchy belly....and the report card was marked that everything was fine. We don't use a collar tho, we use the medicine that is applied monthly at the back of the neck.... I am a neat freak anyway, so this is just killing me. I am bleaching and spraying everything down......like I said.......grrrrrrrrr
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post #4 of 13 Old 06-28-2012, 08:25 PM
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I've heard of fleas developing a resistance to Frontline, but not of ticks - doesn't mean it hasn't happened, though, and I don't know anything about seed ticks.

But I did want to say that I read, while reading up on Frontline because it didn't seem to be killing off the fleas on my cats, that if you get it on the hair, not the skin, it's not so effective.

I found I have to use Frontline because it's the only thing safe for cats that prevents ticks as well as fleas (after using some alternative flea-only products over the winter), and so far I haven't been seeing fleas come back, but of course I can't be sure it's because I'm being more careful to apply to the skin instead of just getting it all over the hair. So I only pass this along as "something I read," not something I can confirm.

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post #5 of 13 Old 06-28-2012, 08:38 PM Thread Starter
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Ohhh thank you Anne. This is all starting to make some sense. My hubby applied the stuff last time and Lil's hair was exceptionally oily in that place. He applied it about 3 1/2 weeks ago, not quite 4. If it was mainly on hair and he didn't get it good down into the skin, this would very much explain why we have only had this problem for going on 3 weeks now. I won't lie, I don't apply it either, we have let the vet and groomers at the vet do it when we had her in there once a month. I need to read up on that. This is only her 4th application of it. Before we used an all in one pill for everything, never had a problem. We should probably switch back. Thanks for the advice, now I've got to go burn her little kennel blankets.....ewwwww
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post #6 of 13 Old 06-28-2012, 08:39 PM Thread Starter
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Around here, Seed ticks are just what we call those itty bitty ticks the size of a sesame seed.
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post #7 of 13 Old 06-28-2012, 09:11 PM
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I'd say you definitely have application error. I use capstar and frontline on my big dogs and never have an issue. You have to get it on the skin though because it's spread by transdisposition, which means the skin cannot be too oily or too dry.
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What brand of treatment(s) are you using? What you are describing could be one of any number of actual products, and the usefulness of those products runs the spectrum from useless (and even more harmful than helpful) to great....
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Ok, I just looked at the stuff. It's k-9 advantix. Supposed to apply directly to skin once a month and interceptor for heart worm (monthly pill that she swallows). Hubby said he thought he got it on well enough, but her hair was pretty oily. Those BOTH came from the vet, were suggested by the vet. The vet has applied them to our dog before. Now, she was going in for more frequent bathing due to the itchiness. I thought it was similar to dry skin asked the groomer at the vet to take a look when we boarded her, she did and did not say anything was wrong, so I thought it was dry skin, it happens. Fast forward to last Thursday, almost 2 weeks after groomer at vet, she was really itchy and red skinned on her tummy. I saw some seed ticks, picked them off, took her to petsmart and said she had a dry itchy tummy, could you please check and do the wash that soothes dry skin. When I picked her up, they said everything was fine. Her little report card even said so. Fast forward to today, really itchy and moving up to chest. I now worry she may be allergic to something, so I take her to the vet. Vet says she has fleas, obviously not horrible since I can't see them when I rub her tummy, but fleas none the less. Since she isn't used to being so itchy, she really rubbed and rubbed and rubbed, hence the dry itchy looking spots. At our previous vet, we just gave her a pill monthly that covered everything and never had a problem, other than it was expensive. She is groomed monthly since she's a westie and needs haircuts frequently to be comfortable. I am pretty sure we caught it early, otherwise someone that was grooming her would have said something surely. After reading about the stuff and how it needs to be applied, I am sure it's operator error...lol.
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post #10 of 13 Old 06-28-2012, 11:49 PM
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IIRC, K9 Advantix actually needs to be applied in two separate spots, not one. But that might just be the large dog size. Hope your pup feels better soon!
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