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post #21 of 42 Old 04-09-2013, 11:51 AM
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Funny you mentioned 6 acres--I have 5 and 50 acres of somewbody else's cornfield in the back. Xena was a sweetheart but a couch potato. Rose keeps herself and Pyg in fighting shape.
It's just like training horses, If you want the dog to be useful you must give the dog your TIME. Honestly, my dogs sleep in the house at night, and they get LOTS of attention every day. It doesn't take as much "work" to dog train. I do agree that high energy dogs shouldn't be gotten lightly.
I have 44 acres, most of which, I can guarantee you, my lazy lump has never set foot on. The neighbors though have 6 (with nothing to herd or do on) and thought an unaltered Blue Heeler was a GREAT idea!

Even a lazy lump of a dog needs training. My dog is and always will be a lazy lump but he's a terrifically behaved lazy lump because I made sure of it. Could you imagine the destruction a 115lb dog could do to a house when left alone? He learned really fast as a puppy that he was not allowed to chew anything that wasn't *his*, table and counter surfing, trash can investigation, occupying furniture that isn't *his* is very much not allowed. He absolutely will NOT set a paw off our property unless the hubby or I invite him, not even a kid with a treat can entice him. There is no chicken chasing (ok... he's terrified of them. ) or barking at the delivery people.
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post #22 of 42 Old 04-09-2013, 11:59 AM
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Agreed. My dogs haven't chewed on anything that wasn't theirs. I keep them in those Nylabones with the chunky ends, and knucklebones. Have to buy 2 at a time. Those are the only ones that last awhile. Rawhide bones are gone in 2 days.

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You need to do your research before you get a pet.

Taking on a herding/hound breed because it's 'cute' and then blaming the dog when they're not quiet and sweet isn't the animal's fault. The fault lies squarely with the human who didn't do proper due diligence.

So, because you didn't do your homework, you want to punish him by dumping him back at the shelter. Unbelievable.
Get off your high horse.

I have worked with many working dogs on an actual working ranch (full days and many nights spent upon my ranch horse, running 350 acres of cattle, horses and sheep, with Collies, Heelers, and Catahoulas) so I am quite familiar with their exercise needs. But I have never worked with a dog who was this unmanageable around other dogs, hence my request for help.

I have spent well over $1000 on vet bills and dog training, not to mention 3 months of my time working with Oakley. I am not merely turning my back on him at the slightest indication of an issue. I will, however, fiercely protect my human son and if there is any chance of my human child being hurt by Oakley, then Oakley will need to find another home.
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post #24 of 42 Old 04-09-2013, 12:47 PM
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Your child always trumps your animal. This is first time you mentioned this in this thread. Euthanize the dog.

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Your child always trumps your animal. This is first time you mentioned this in this thread. Euthanize the dog.
No it's not .. she mentioned her son in post #1

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post #26 of 42 Old 04-09-2013, 12:59 PM
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Whatever. I wouldn't keep a dog that threatened my family.

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Your child always trumps your animal. This is first time you mentioned this in this thread. Euthanize the dog.
There's no aggression to children. There's not even sure aggression to other dogs - there's over excitement and mouthing, but OP herself said she wasn't sure if the dog was being aggressive or just doesn't know how control her pent up energy around other dogs.

I do agree that the child trumps the animal. I think that, if OP can't get a handle on it, sending it back to the shelter would be a viable option with the warning that he has to be in a single dog home. You see it ALL the time (I look for dogs I can't have more often than is good for me) - A dog will be up for adoption. It has the little checklist: Good with kids, cats, other dogs, etc. And sometimes, that "good with dogs" box is checked no, and in the description it'll say "Does not get along with other dogs, needs to be in a single dog home. This dog would be perfect for a family who lives on a farm out in the middle of the country and just wants one dog to help out with chores.

If the dog starts getting violent and aggressive - snapping, snarling, drawing blood - then yes, I would say euthing the dog is also a viable option, but so far her concern for her son is that he will get trampled while Oakley is trying to get to another dog. (having been trampled by my 200 pound dog plenty of times when I was younger, it's not as bad as it sounds). I do think if it's not fixed or the dog isn't moved to a single dog home it could escalate, but that's a whole other can of worms. I'm not saying that euthing is NOT an option.. Just, not the ONLY and IMMEDIATE option that she should jump to.

OP, you probably have... But have you tried working with Oakley while another dog is REALLLLY far away? So you can see it, but it's so far the dog doesn't mind? If that's an option, you could try working him on a leash with the dog far away, and SLOWLY inch it closer - close enough that he'll notice, but not close enough that he goes up the wall crazy. And then work with him some more until he ignores the other dog, and move him a bit closer... Etc.

Otherwise, look and see if there are any dog trainers who specifically specialize in this type of situation. If you can't get it under control, a nice remote farm might be the best option for him.
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IMHO, you OWN the dog, and you OWN the solution. Have the Vet bring a muzzle and euthanize.

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post #29 of 42 Old 04-09-2013, 01:27 PM
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Wow, I read this as a young dog needing a LOT of exercise and socialization. NOT an aggressive dog that needs to be put down.
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post #30 of 42 Old 04-09-2013, 01:34 PM
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The OP doesn't like our suggestions, just wants to vent. I have other posts to answer.

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