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        10-25-2011, 09:31 AM
    I agree with Draftys mom he does look like he has fin rot going on at the same time. And she is also right that removeing the whole filter will restart your cycle exspecially in a tank this small. In the future most of the time you can make a small slit in the fiber of the filter and shake out the carbon part. I missed the part were the tank has only be running 3 weeks so yes you do need to be doing 50% water changes daily with it being such a small tank. Please don't take this the wrong way but would it not be possiable for you to rehome or take back the pleco? You can always get another one when you get a bigger tank. Do you know what happens to a fish when they are kept in a tank that is to small? Their organs and such continue to grow while the outside of their body stays small which will eventually cause a slow and painful death. I know you are learning and I am not fussing or trying to be rude I am just attempting to educate you.
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        10-25-2011, 11:44 AM
    Sorry if I came off rude. It was late and I was just about to go to bed.

    I agree with what Calmwaters said about removing the carbon. It's relatively easy just to make a slit in the filter cartridge and shake out the carbon. I honestly don't use carbon in any of my tanks anymore. I find it useless and it just gets in the way. So, I make my own filter media now out of blue filter sponge. Just cut a piece off the big rolls that come in a bag and stuff it in the filter. Ta-da.

    Doing only 10-15% water changes twice a week is not going to keep your ammonia and nitrite levels as low as possible, even with just the betta in there. Daily 50% water changes are the only thing that are going to help. At this point, I'd honestly recommend going out and getting a bottle of Tetra Safe Start (TSS). Restart your tank completely (basically do a 100% water change), add the TSS, and wait for ten days. Your tank will be cycled then because TSS contains the necessary beneficial bacteria to jump start your cycle, in suspended animation. Don't be fooled by other products like NutraFin Cycle and the like. They are composed of land-based bacteria that will create a false cycle and after they die (usually within a week or so), you're back to square one.

    Calmwaters is also absolutely correct about what will happen to your pleco if kept in a tank too small for it. It doesn't matter if you upgrade to a 10gal, even as soon as possible. The tank is still too small for it and it will die a very painful death if not kept in a properly-sized tank and allowed to grow like normal.

    I'm sorry if none of this is what you want to hear. I am a moderator on a couple of fish forums (one betta forum and a friend's general fishkeeping forum) and I have learned a valuable lesson: I have had to become more concerned about the welfare of your fish than I am about your feelings. I would suggest going to a tropical fish forum called (Fish Lore's Aquarium Fish Forum). There are great, knowledgeable people there who will help you tremendously. Another site I'd recommend is the betta forum I'm a mod on. It's called Betta Fish Forums. Here's the link: Betta Fish Forums

    I know you said you are a zoo keeping technology major and that you have an emphasis in tropical fish keeping, but I would suggest forgetting everything you think you know and starting back at square one with the forums I suggested (especially's a great community...a lot like here, actually). Trust me, I had to do the same thing. Pretty much every fishkeeper does. I don't know anyone who comes into the game knowing everything. And whoever told you that you could put a pleco in a 5.5gal and upgrade the tank when he gets a bit bigger...stop listening to that person. They're going to get your fish killed.
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        10-25-2011, 12:22 PM
    Thank you both for being honest with me. I appreciate it. I'm trying to do the best thing for my fish.

    I will restart my cycle this afternoon(I have classes from 11-4 today).

    If rehoming/returning my Pleco is what I need to do, I'll do it. Do either of you know Walmart's policies? All I know that if a fish dies I can take it back at any point.
        10-25-2011, 12:30 PM
    As far as I know, Walmart won't take fish back. Do you have any local "ma and pa" fish stores around? If you do, I'd call them and see if they'll take the pleco in on trade or even just take him off your hands. The only other option I can see is putting an ad up on Craigslist or Freecycle in your area for someone with a large enough tank (make sure the tank they're going to put him in is at least 29 gallons).
        10-25-2011, 12:32 PM
    I agree Walmart will not take them back that I know of but craigslist or a local store maybe willing to take him.
        10-25-2011, 05:58 PM
    I'm looking around for options to rehome him. It's the best option for my betta's sake. I'm going to try and see if the aquatic dept. At my school will take him.
        10-25-2011, 06:59 PM
    Well, I did a 100% water change, added Prime as was recommended, and TSS per instructions, and I am actively trying to find a place that I can re-home my Pleco to.

    I have one question though, should having my tank completely recycle and even itself out take care of my Betta's multiple issues? If not, what should I be doing while it's cycling, or planning to do once it's done cycling?
        10-25-2011, 09:07 PM
    I would still treat with the meds we talked about but that's just me I am not good at waiting. Something else that would really help in a small tank like yours is real plants they absorb the ammonia and if you add enough it will automatically cycle the tank for you. If you like I could send you some clipping from my plants just pm me.
        10-25-2011, 09:50 PM
    Originally Posted by Calmwaters    
    I would still treat with the meds we talked about but that's just me I am not good at waiting. Something else that would really help in a small tank like yours is real plants they absorb the ammonia and if you add enough it will automatically cycle the tank for you. If you like I could send you some clipping from my plants just pm me.
    Ok, I'll get the meds when I get a chance- if not tomorrow, either Thursday or Friday. It's supposed to drop 6-9" of snow overnight, and it may mess up my plans to get to Petsmart.
    I've been interested in live plants because I have heard them to be super helpful, I've so far tried bulbs with no success. I'd be super grateful for clippings, but I will be honest with you, I don't have the current ability to help with shipping at the moment. =/
        10-25-2011, 10:00 PM
    PM me your address and when I get a chance I will send you some anyway. I know you are a starveing college student. LOL It may take me a little while but I will send you some.
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