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post #1 of 19 Old 03-02-2013, 08:10 AM Thread Starter
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Moral Dilemma with a BYB

Should say I define a BYB as a person that breeds dogs on a wim, because puppies are cute, to see the "mircle of birth, or just because (for money).

Is it wrong or would it encourage a BYB to help place puppies? A neighbor (friends with my parents) has 20 puppies to home from two litters at the same time. Problem no one wants a coonhound /mastiff /lab cross or a beagle /little river /mastif f/lab cross, and now they are looking for people to help place them. (Those are only the breeds I know in the mix there very well could be more) These were not OOPS puppies she bred them on purpose.

Problem is the owner is so loopy with her dogs, if she find 20 homes I don't think this will be the last time she breeds them. Because in her words she loves puppies, and it would be horrible if they didn't experience having puppies. It seems like she wanted them to have puppies because she's humanizing them, and she's wants the attention. Ugh.

To help or not to help that is the question.
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post #2 of 19 Old 03-02-2013, 08:43 AM
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Leave her be and let her figure it out. If she can't place them, she might not breed anymore. If she has an open kennel, she will try again.
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Unreal how some people think!
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post #4 of 19 Old 03-02-2013, 10:39 AM
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She wouldn't get my help if it were me. It would be different if the pups were in bad condition and their welfare was at stake, but as they're not, she needs to learn how much work it is to place twenty puppies. It probably won't stop her from breeding in the future, but it might make her slow down and reconsider breeding as many dogs.
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Let her deal with her own problems. Maybe having twenty four month old puppies will finally break her of this habit.
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News is that three died from having a clef palate.

You're right it's her problem and yes they'll be fed. But that's it, they will not be needled, dewormed, neutered, housetrained, be allow outside while in their home. She doesn't believe in it. She's a dog lover not a responisble owner.

Should say the outside part in because their dogs run away whenever outside, and they don't have money to make a good size pen.

So that's it, I'm ignoring her problem, and try not to let it bother me.
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I agree in not helping her. There comes a point in time where people have to fail in life. This will hopefully be her failure and put her on the right track in the future.

Helping her will just make her think her puppies are in demand. She does not see them as "rescues"...
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I agree do not help her. It is a horrible thing to breed dogs just because you can! When someone breeds dogs they need quality animals, that they compete with, and they MUST be improving the standards for the breed, otherwise they are creating unwanted animals! They should Not just be breeding because they can! There are WAY to many unwanted animals for that!

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I agree do not help her. It is a horrible thing to breed dogs just because you can! When someone breeds dogs they need quality animals, that they compete with, and they MUST be improving the standards for the breed, otherwise they are creating unwanted animals! They should Not just be breeding because they can! There are WAY to many unwanted animals for that!
Now I don't think you have to compete to breed, but you should have good, working dogs with proven lineage and no genetic issues. And yes, it should be to make a better dog. It helps if you show, but if you have good cattle herding dogs that meet the health criteria, that's good enough.
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I honestly don't mind mixed breeds to an extent. But breed a dog for a purpose, I've seen enough golden retrievers that don't retrieve, hounds that don't smell, terriers who don't hunt. If you want to mix your two best cattle dogs because they have great cow sense, all for you. Those dogs have a purpose. I would love to see today's german shepherds with sheep, or beagles after rabbits. But it's fine for those dogs to be pets too, just have to breed traits please.

All for health checks, my own border collie is clear for hip, and eyes, and so it's his parents, grandparents.
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