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post #11 of 19 Old 03-02-2013, 07:00 PM
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So she doesn't allow all these dogs outside? My advice to you, is to NOT consume any food or drink while you visit her, could be contaminated with feces, yuk!
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post #12 of 19 Old 03-02-2013, 07:16 PM Thread Starter
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waresbear, yes the dogs don't go outside, they let them out of the patio where sometimes they "go" but otherwise no. I stopped going there a few years ago because of animals on the counters and licking it, it made me sick thinking about it.

Also should say that I have known this family for 9 years, so it isn't like I am being rude and judging someone I have no clue about. I use to babysit their kids when they were babies, and use to groom the dogs (before these ones two got hit by cars).
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post #13 of 19 Old 03-18-2013, 02:55 PM
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If she is not caring for the puppies, as they should be taken care of, something needs to be done. Like calling the humane society. They'll at least talk to her about getting the puppies the proper care, and if she can't or refuses they'll remove the puppies and likely the big dogs too. Problem solved.
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post #14 of 19 Old 03-18-2013, 03:17 PM
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If I was asked for help, I would agree to do so only AFTER all the adult dogs had been fixed.

Otherwise, your mess.... your problem!
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post #15 of 19 Old 03-18-2013, 05:28 PM
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I, personally, don't see a problem with breeding 'mutts' and would breed for health and temperament before breeding for 'breed traits' (hunters, herders, etc.) as pets. My family bred cockapoos for years, and while they're 'mutts' they're being bred because they produce incredible house dogs with amazing temperaments. That said, my family knows a woman who sounds IDENTICAL to the lady OP is talking about. Breeds for a quick buck, will stick anything together and usually has 2 - 4 litters going at a time. Her house is absolutely disgusting, and she has many large breed, high energy dogs locked in small pens in her back yard. The small breed dogs don't go outside, and do all their business in the house. Honestly, I think the humane shelter should be notified. I know that organizations like that have a much easier time placing puppies, because they get so many adult dogs in, and if the conditions are bad will likely seize her adult dogs or at least have them fixed. Hopefully.
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post #16 of 19 Old 03-18-2013, 06:00 PM
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this is not a good situation at all . I Know it is hard cause you want to help the puppies but the Greeder will take advantage of that I would do just as you are and leave it be.. I would also tell them so.. I have lost a few friends over the way they treat animals. I hope the puppies can find good homes

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post #17 of 19 Old 03-19-2013, 02:44 AM
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Do the living conditions warrant a visit from AC?
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No the conditions are not bad enough for AC, once the pups are older that may change. The pups are now two weeks old (or a little older), three pups have died in total so 17 pups.

Point out these dogs were not bred for temperment only for the owners personal want of "babies", which I just found out. She likes the attention she gets when people want to see them. One mom has aggression and very unpredictable if she doesn't get her way (food, rubs, treats etc) and the other is very under socialized and a nervous reck. The father has very aggressive and was extremely difficult to handle.

I've decided I want nothing to do with the family in general due to things that have come up, they want pity and I say suck it up, this is what you wanted. As awful as it sounds I hope they get stuck with 8 or 10, 12 to 14 week old puppies. Yes I can be a bitter person, but long as the pups have food and water I'm going to have to say it's her problem.

Yes I am against breeding mutts, that no one wants, no one wants these mutts, they have 5 people that might want one. I know from my Aunt (breeds registered pugs) that lots of people say they want one, when the time comes don't count of at least half of them.These pups are being given away I believe.

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post #19 of 19 Old 03-19-2013, 10:52 AM
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I would wait two weeks(let the pups get mobile) and give AC a call anyway for a tip on a possible hoarder issue with a massive amount of dogs living in the home.
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