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post #1 of 11 Old 04-23-2013, 01:56 AM Thread Starter
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My dog has a serious over eating problem...

My lab will eat ANYTHING, a couple times we've found socks / underwear vomited up on the floor... She can't have small toys, the laundry room is under lock and key, etc. well she's quite fat, not obese but FAT, but mom refuses to put her on a diet / feed her separately from the other dogs because it's 'too much of a hassle' :roll: maybe today she'll change her mind. I put out enough food for all three dogs, but apparently Miss Rudie ate ALL of it, I came out of my room to find her sitting sadly by the door with TWO gigantic piles of half-digested dog food sitting next to her. Seriously, I have absolutely no idea how that amount of food fit inside of her (apparently it didn't, if she puked it all up). Gosh, poor girl is locked outside, feeling quite sick I bet, and everyone else is hungry. Mom gets to see that mess and hopefully realize fatso needs to be put on a specific diet. It's just hard to fathom that she would eat so much that she physically CANNOT hold it in her stomach.
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post #2 of 11 Old 04-23-2013, 07:41 AM
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The dog doesn't need a diet as in special food. Just LESS of her normal food. Feed her separately and keep her outside until the others dogs eat. Being fat is not her fault. It would be very easy to separate her at feeding time.

Why dont you take responsibility and do her feedings so your mom cant say it's too hard?

Being fat is unhealthy for ger and totally fixable. She could have killed herself overeating like that.

This situation is caused by the people, not the dog.
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post #3 of 11 Old 04-23-2013, 08:35 AM
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The dog needs to be trained to what's appropriate to put in her mouth and whats not. It's no different than a dog standing up on the kitchen counter scoffing the human food when no ones looking.

Dogs are hard wired to eat as much as they can when they can - as in the wild they would gorge themselves on a catch and perhaps not feed for three days.

The dog needs to be trained to only touch what's in her bowl, and keep her mouth of anything else.

It can be done, I have a labx who when as a pup would try to eat's a training issue, not a gluttony issue.
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Muppet-I would LOVE to know how to do that. I have one who eats EVERYTHING also, and he will drop if if I happen to see him, and say "Leave it", otherwise-it is gone. How do you teach them to not eat stuff when you are not there? I crate him when I am not home-I have to. he is a devil child! In fact, he almost does in January from eating an entire bottle of prescription meds I set down (packed in a canvas bag to take home with me while I walked upstairs to make sure house was ready to leave.....less than 2 minutes-literally!). He was a lucky pup, but was in the hospital for a week.

OP-leaving food out 24/7 sounds like what your mom does, and I stopped doing that ages ago. I feed twice a day, and that way I can control how much my guys get. I have teeny dogs, who very easily get overweight. If they are used to 24/7, it takes some time to "retrain", but it can be done.

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What breed are they Frank?
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Mine is a toy schnauzer. Cute as can be, but OMG! We have had many schnauzers, in fact raised a litter-never had this problem.

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OP .. your dog is heading toward an obstruction or bloat .. both can be deadly.

We have one that chews and eats anything in the house .. and I mean ANYTHING. He is not allowed out of the crate unless he is supervised... for his own safety. Fortunately for him, he is also the dog that I can trust around my chickens.. so he gets to spend alot of outside time with me and the animals.

We also have a dog that will eat anything (edible) and given the chance will try to eat an entire bag of dogfood.. We are VERY careful with her and STILL have had to deal with bloat TWICE.... both times the fault of juvenile humans.. grrr

It's OUR responsibility to make sure she eats appropriately and only the amount she needs. We feed twice a day .. supervise them while they are eating .. and make sure the food is stored where she can't get to it.

Do what you need to do ... for her health and safety!

Labs are notorious for "dietary indiscretion" ..

Just wanted to add that it doesn't take any more time to feed seperately and supervise them, than it does to clean up 10 lbs of half digested barf... just sayin'.
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My lab cross has to be put on a very, very strict diet due to having luxating patella along with many other health problems, even though he's only 2. Give her only the amount recommended by your vet, and if you don't want her to scarf it down, lay it out on a shallow pan instead of a bowl to slow her down. I feed our guy seperate from our other two little dogs by crating him or sending him outside while they eat.

He did eat a sock once though, and had to have surgery to get it out. Yikes!

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I also put rocks in my guys dish to slow him down.......good size ones he has to eat around. But a cookie sheet type thing sounds like a good option too!

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Training a dog out of eating inanimate non food items AND off limits food items:

When you have a dog who eats/chews on everything you need to set him up to FAIL - this gives you an opportunity to teach him it's not a good idea to be putting his mouth on something he shouldn't, same applies to mouthy dogs.

When my lab x golden was a puppy I trained her to be a bird dog. She has an excellent nose and keen interest in birds. I would walk miles and miles through farmers fields full of ponds and tree thickets. If she found something 'edible' she's scoff it down and swallow it before I could get to her. On occasion these 'items' would make her sick and she'd never touch them again, for example a rotten gopher - this is good, it's a natural inborn trait MOST dogs have - if it makes them sick they won't eat it again, I've forgotten the technical term for this behavour. (Neophasia or something like that!)

However - the duck eggs wouldn't make her sick!

So one day, being fed up with a dog who would down dried up orange rinds to duck eggs, I took a tin can stuffed with rocks and nails and sealed it up and went out into the fields, I let her run and roam. As soon as she started scoffing on who knows what I told her to 'drop it' in a nasty tone, she didn't drop it, I shook that can of rocks and she dropped whatever it was in her mouth and ran.....perfect. If she didn't drop it that can became a carefully aimed airborne missile.

I applied the same technique at home, I would set her up by leaving a chunk of meat on the kitchen floor or putting it right under her nose on her bed, I'd say 'leave it' and walk away.....if she touched that meat I'd shake that can, run at her and growl and firmly insert my hand into her mouth and remove the item. Worked everytime.....she's nine now and hasn't put a rotten gopher or any other item in her mouth except for her food or a stick or ball for eight years. She can carry an egg in her mouth to me if I tell her to 'bring it'....but she won't eat it.

Rather than keeping a dog crated because of the damage they can do to your house or what they might ingest, set them up to fail and harshly correct them. Put that sock under the dogs nose, and if they even look at it 'get after them'.

I had a dog (she's very old now and lives with my mom in NZ) who would sneak the cat food, I scolded her and made her sit and stay by the cat bowl for two hours when I caught her.....she never ate it again.

Set them up to fail so they can succeed. Avoiding the issue by crating and leashing only exacerbates the issue when the dog is moving around at free will.

I'm sure now I could leave a whole hambone on my dogs bed all night and she wouldn't eat it......

You have to 'own' everything in your environment, you have to be able to reach into that dogs mouth and not have it tighten its grip on the forbidden item or your hand. Put the forbidden item right up against the side of the dogs muzzle and scold with an angry tone until the dog removes its eye contact and turns its muzzle well away from the item.....the dog is saying 'I understand....I don't want to touch that anymore'.

Also, just to add, regurgitation and vomiting are two different things.....regurgitation is normal after a dog gorges itself, that's how they take food back to the pups at the den, vomiting is very much a big deterrent to a dog. If a dog is regurgitating the food/item looks whole and is usually because the dog has gorged not because he or she has eaten a sickening/rotten piece of food.
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